1.5 Update is out!

On the matter of tyres and tyre app, I've just noticed something (sorry if it's already been brought up N times). Both GT3 Softs and GT2/E Super SuperSofts have no "10%" break in during the outlap. On the other hand, Softs on Huracan ST still need this wear in, and the wear bars go from red to green as expected (while the graph still has a full bar).

Out of curiosty, in the skd ini files I've also noticed that GT2/E tyres have an optimal 35psi listed, instead of 33psi like GT3s.

 

I'd say the last option is certainly possible, obviously the bars appearance is dependent on how fast the tyre wears in relation to how much of tyre there is to wear out.

Simple enough to test if the data is completely borked and showing the same data for both sides, grab a car (e.g. lotus 49), mismatch rear tyre pressures, open the diff, drive up to a wall, floor it.

Got into fourth before I noticed that the bar had dropped way more than enough to take a shot


So definitely not showing the same data for both sides.

Sidenote, when do the tires burst from heat? I just now noticed the temperatures I'd generated

 

At least in previous versions, you'd need damage enabled for tyres to burst, not only wear.

 

Hello,

Regarding the 1.5 update; Is the track Trento Bondone going to be updated aswell ?
Track is awesome

Also, 1.5 overhauled the game in my opinion. Keep up the good work Kunos it keeps getting better and better. still amazed.

 

Ah, yes, of course, well good that I had it off for that test

 

nope.. that's why we added also the colours to those bars. The fact is, wear in AC is complex and it really doesn't lend itself to be appropriately expressed with a bar.
My personal opinion is that it shouldn't be there at all.. the app to check tyre wear has been there since the first version of AC.. it's called "laptime"... and the decision about the tyre level of wear/grip in the particular part of whatever you are trying to achieve can only be taken by you, no bar can tell you when it's time to change.

Perhaps the scale is not enough to show you differences but the colours will.

 

I'm curious to see what happens when you reach half of the wear bar ... at about 2/3 the grip decay is already quite noticeable, meaning i struggle to keep my E30 on track

 

lap times start to suffer

I did 25 laps with 650S GT3 at Spa with hard tyres.

Around lap 18 both front and rear went to half bar yellow.

Started losing lap time every single lap after that to the finish by the end of race I was losing around 1 second to my session best time.


only thing that doesn't work yet is AI doesn't lose any time they can do 25 laps on mediums with no time loss.

 

I did some 20 laps races with DTM/GT cars (on medium tyres) and started seeing noticeable grip degradation at about half race.
At about 3/4 of the race my pace was already reduced by about 2-3 seconds.
Ended the race with about 2/3 of the "wear" bar\.

Seems to me that AI pilots do suffer from wear in average, but faster ones show almost no slowdown, while it's massive for slower ones.

 

it depends on the tyre... each tyre is different, so all you know is that you're half way through the point where your tyre might explode. What that means for your situation is not something that the software can figure out for you.

 

I am not sure it's that cut and dry. Again, this is only in reference to the Lotus 125S1; as my other car the 98T doesn't seem to have changed that much.

After V1.5 at Spa it seemed like I could step on the go fast pedal after the Bus Stop where as with anything before V1.5 I had to be gentle with throttle application. It's as if TC is on even though it isn't.

Ultimately I want it to be as accurate to real life as possible. If V1.5 is it then great, but I doubt the 125 S1 is that easy to drive. Since I normally complain about empty open wheel servers; maybe this will increase available drivers out there and be a good thing overall. For me the jury is still out on that one.

 

Might seem like a silly question, but I don't run races long enough to find out and never had that "problem", so I'll ask.
Does it mean that if I (just an example) drive xx laps with soft tyres and I mean pushing them as much as I can, they will blow up/I get a puncture at some point?
And second question. Was it like that before?

 

at the moment they won't, but they might in the future. The truth is that the performance goes so low that it's not really something you'll see unless you are trying to do it on purpose.

 

Ok got it, thanks.

 

Argh, darn colors xD, red/green issues here... No big deal though, as I mostly drive without any apps, it´s just nice to check out that app for the temperatures. Redoing my setups these days for tyre temperatures and it´s amazing, feels almost like cheating... (Well it kinda is, as those tyre temperature sensors won´t be cheap and the average trackday driver or race team won´t buy that stuff, but well, technically interesting at least!)

Love to fiddle with this stuff a lot since the update!

 

I'm aware that it's the only new value that's not a placeholder, I didn't know that it was implemented with 1.4 already. If it was already implemented in 1.4 water temperature still only got actually displayed on digital displays with 1.5 onwards. It wasn't there in the official race cars in 1.4.

 

That's what I thought also, but was curious about the hypothetical possibility of achieving this.

I'm not a physics "dude", but actually it does.

Thanks for answers guys.

 

This vKM methodology troubles me. Sometimes i can't understand why in a race, the soft compound is better option than medium or hard.

example - > http://managerdc2.rackservice.org:50299/sessiondetails?sessionid=7307#

race was a 25lap (45') race in Monza with C9. Tarmac temperature was 40C.
Look at drivers 1-4. They were with softs!!!!
Driver No5 which is equally fast as a guy, he used mediums for the whole race, he did zero mistakes and he ended 90'' after 1st guy!!! He lost more than 2secs a lap (ok with this), but how is it possible that softs with 95% grip, managed to finished the race?
Even more, Akis made his fastest lap at 1-2 laps before the end of race!!!!
Driver 4, he started with hards, was unable to heat them, he did a pitstop with softs and still passed driver 5 who had still mediums!!!!

So even if the race was 1hour long, it would be still best to just put softs, do a pitstop and still win.

So i am asking, when will mediums or hards tyres will be best as option?

 

Well if that's 1.4 did you compare to 1.5 before asking when it will change?