PS4 1.09 FFB Wheel Straight

Has anyone noticed that the wheel feels super light a few degrees left and right of centre since 1.09? Its like a deadzone where there is no feedback.

Got to say, I think I preferred the driving before 1.09. Never thought I would say that.

 

They should really add minforce to console.

 

What is min force? Like a value that the wheel never drops below so always produces some resistance?

 

Im not sure exactly how it works tbh. But if the ffb is dead at the center you add a bit of minforce, value is different for different wheels, so it..well, gives forces in the middle. Its not magic so hopefully someone can explain it better.

I think it stop the low forces that doesnt come to the wheel anyway and replace them with higher forces, and thats why, but dont take that explanation as truth.

Here a guy mention it. Watch from 2:40. Just a few words but that describes it:


edit: Im not sure if you talk about a regular deadzone or a ffb deadzone.

 

I noticed it last night with my T150. thought that maybe it was just me since I was playing F1 2016 before AC.

 

It's not just you. The night before 1.09 came out I had made a record in excel of all my preferred FFB settings per car and so was very sensitive to change as I was increasing 1 percent more/less until I was happy. I felt the difference after 1.09 immediately and I would say it feels vastly inferior to before.

 

Have you got 'understeer effect' activated? I still have version 1.03 (xbox), but I feel a very noticeable difference in the central area of the feedback when I turn it on, as if it filled in some dead gaps I otherwise feel. I've read some don't like this effect at all, but maybe you could give it a go (if you don't use it already) to check if it could be of any use until they sort this problem out - hopefully soon, as their image is unfortunately getting more and more tarnished with all that.

 

Something I've noticed since 1.09 is if I select a quick race, wait for the grid to load up my wheel (TM T300), has a small 'jolt' and kicks a couple of degrees to the right ?
Also, there seems to be a noticeable deadzone when driving straight ahead where there is no feeling unless I 'jiggle' left / right slightly. Even on the broken surface section of Black Cat County, unless I'm loading the tyres on any car by steering one way or the other, there is no feel at all !

 

Exactly this. It's so noticeable since 1.09. On some cars pre 1.09 there was a lack of feel right in the centre but very small, now those cars have a huge amount either side of centre where there is no FFB. The FFB works in the centre as is evidenced by curbs and ABS but just not road feel when going straight.

 

I have it set to off as I think the under steer feeling is better and more realistic with it off and this is still the case after 1.09. I will try it with it on but can't see it making up the difference.

The feel everywhere else except straight ahead and initial turn-in/entering a straight is actually better than before 1.09 so its not all bad. It just doesn't feel as realistic because there is force when going through a corner and then like a switch, that force disappears when you straighten up and your left with a sloppy wheel with no FFB all the way down the straight and at initial turn-in to the next corner.

It feels very much like driving a car with knackered track rod ends, you are never really sure of the cars direction when straight and it can feel like it wanders and needs small corrections.

As a suggestion to KS, would it be possible to have the FFB options as per the PC? Minimum force, per car FFB and damping for example?

Thanks

 

I don't even have a wheel yet.. Just using a controller.. and I can 100% understand what you're saying right here. I wish I hadn't read this, my wheel is on the way and this sounds like I'm going to hate it. Hope they sort this out.. the FFB should never "disappear" like that.

 

Don't judge it solely on what I've written as feel is a really subjective thing. You may love it as others do so look forward to your wheel and make your own mind up when youve got some hours on the wheel. I am going to force myself past the issue because everywhere else the feel is fantastic. You have plenty to look forward to.

 

@matt5687
At least on PC the minforce is different depending on how much force you set in the wheel profiler. Since you dont have a wheel control panel on console I guess that is decided by gain ingame, so try to fiddle around with it and see if the deadzone becomes less noticeable with more or less gain.

 

Thanks. I have increased overall FFB gain and the slack feeling does decrease but by the time its acceptable the forces are so high when cornering that its extremely hard to turn the wheel. So that moves the problem rather than solves it. Cheers though.

 

So this is wierd, today run some laps in the WHC, and my wheel felt just the same as before the update.

 

Strange. I didn't manage to test anything out yesterday but I will have a go tonight. Did you experience the lack of forces when straight then randomly it was back to the way it was or did you do anything like restart the PS4 or unplug the wheel? Just trying to get an idea of whether this is a bug related to the DOR problems or if it is a result of the upgraded physics that came with 1.09

 

I played Version 1.09 with my T500 yesterday the first time on PS4 Pro (Quick Race, Brands Hatch Indy, BMW M3 Group A)
I played it then back to back on my PS4 with still Version 1.03. I could not notice a problem with FFB. Love the update.

 

Great info, thanks. I was hoping to hear from someone who has access to 1.03 on PS4.

Would you be willing to test a specific car/track/FFB settings combo to try and replicate my findings?

Cheers

 

My PS way off when I started so it was a fresh boot. try ed again layer in the evening With a fresh boot and was normal again.

 

Thanks. My PS4 was off when the update came out and I turned it on to download and install it, I then tried the game and found the FFB feel I've been describing but since then its only been in and out of rest mode and the FFB felt the same every time. I will try rebooting with the wheel plugged in and see if that helps.