Generic Line & Auto

Was watching a friend of mine race last night as he's been having serious trouble doing the career on easy, so instead of him abandoning the game I popped round to offer up some help ( Im no expert )

I found he was using the line and runing with an auto box I didn't want to alter his way of playing so gave it a few laps to try and show him slow in fast out but boy does that auto box slow you down 50% of the time it puts you in the wrong gear and no control over engine braking and the line is sorry but rubbish so off putting and out of sink, I was so struggling to beat the AI and certainly couldn't match my own times.

So I picked the AC Abarth 500 on a track he knows and set it to manual ( auto clutch ) and no line and after a short while his times got better and better.

When I left he had topped the race he was struggling on and Im sure intime if he sticks with it he will improve greatly.

My point to this thread is guys if any of you are playing in this way ( line & auto ) and struggling do your self a favour and change, yes it will take time and you will get frustrated at times but your racing experience will become more rewarding ( in any racing title )

This is not a dig at anyone that uses these aids mearly just insight at how much better and rewarding your experience will be if you persevere.

 

Most of my racing prior to ac I always used the braking line - mainly due racing online and having limited time to learn tracks. Only time I didn't use the line was Forza 2 where you could set online lobbies to not allow the line.

When I first played AC on Xbox I used the line, however using the line appeared to amplify the fps issue so I turned the line off. The lower fps didn't hurt my eyes as much with it off, so I kept it off.

I would say that the physics of AC are so rewarding, and that is the reason I am now racing without the line.

Does your mate have wheel bibbles - I do and could not go back to any other racing game now after playing AC.

Interesting to know if anyone else has turned the line off since they started playing AC?

 

No we both play with controllers at the moment but hopefully next month we are going to buy a G29 set each ( can't wait ) I didn't mention view in my thread I'm guessing nobody nowadays plays sims in 3rd person ? My personal view is cockpit although I do sometimes use bonnet cam depending on car.

I stopped using a line from my Forza 3 days and switched to a manual with Pcars I couldn't go back now , but I feel Assetto deserves a wheel to get the most out of the game.

 

When you get your wheel you will think - "what have i been doing all these years, why didn't I just buy one earlier".

It's a game changer - literally.

I had the Microsoft Xbox wheel and thought that was brilliant with Forza.
Then I got a tx wheel with pcars, and was blown away.

Now I have ac and just wow.
Only person I know who does like the wheel is. ......my wife!

I'm secretly planning to get a pc next.

 

I have never used line, but do use auto box. I started manually ds and letting the box auto up. Noticed my times have improved that way. Currently using Ds4 hoping to get a wheel next month also bibbles

 

The trick to using the racing line is learning to use it only as a suggestion. Ironically, you have to learn to ignore it. Where you focus is a very important part of racing, and the racing line has a tendency to focus your eyes directly in front of the car (very bad). I still occasionally use it on tracks I'm unfamiliar with, but I've learned a neat trick. If you use the line as a suggestion, you can really easily adjust your apex late/early, depending upon the circumstance. Stay to the outside of the racing line on the way in and you'll late apex, which is good for slow in fast out. Stay to the inside of the racing line, and you'll early apex, which is useful for carrying maximum speed off a straight.

I stopped using the racing line in pCARS a while back, but when I picked up AC, I needed to learn some new tracks. With some experience under my belt, I immediately recognized the issue with eye focus being too close. That adjustment was easy. The revelation about using the "ideal line" as a suggestion was way more helpful. It's something I think even experienced racers can benefit from. I learned some new lines and shaved quite a bit of time in some cases.

 

I'd sooner learn the track by practice, the perfect line and I'm not saying that is what the line is but the perfect line is great for hot lapping but can go out the window in race .

I like to learn the track not the ingame line. But each to there own , enjoying the game what ever way you play it is the most important thing.

 

That's more or less what I'm saying. The line is a suggestion only. Too many people turn on the line and try to follow it as if they're on train tracks. That doesn't work for many reasons, not the least of which is the fact that you don't always get to choose your line in a race (because of traffic). If you can learn to look past the line, using it only as a suggestion, you'd be amazed how it can refine your view of the track.

 

Turned it off the second it was shown in the menu. Don't even know what it looks like in game. Unless you're brand new to racing they're basically useless, it's better to just race the opponents because they will show you the lines, speeds and approximate braking and acceleration points.

The only time I think I've seen one was when I was training the Drivatar in Forza 1 and it was telling me to scrub off too much speed for corners.

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Never raced with auto either unless the manual isn't available (NFS, Burnout, Ridge Racer; looking at you), heck the older arcade games even made the manual like 10% more powerful, you didn't stand a chance racing auto.

You'll get faster by turning off traction control and learning to modulate the throttle (apart from really quick stuff). Stability control should be off too.
With something like a Alfa MiTo you'll get way quicker times with proper technique and basically everything off except ABS: Factory, TC itself will hold you back a lot especially on slow tight courses.

Good to hear you're getting a wheel Bibbles, it's a serious jump and you will go through a re-learning phase but AC really shines on one.

 

I find at the moment in AC trying to brake using a controller with abs off no matter how gentle Im am on the trigger causes lock up, I don't use abs with Pcars but in AC there is no way to adjust linear .

 

Fair enough, I usually leave ABS on Factory. I found it difficult with the gamepad on GT5 (partly due to poor stock brake setup).

Fact is that ABS in real life provides better braking than the majority of humans in most circumstances.

I have found most of the (older) cars that don't have ABS react well on the G29 pedal set. I did find that a need for some front bias on the Lotus 25. I have not disabled it and tried on the cars that usually have it though.

 

Stability control in Assetto Corsa is an odd one I have mine set to zero as I have no idea how it works or what it does , It certainly doesn't work like IRL.

 

You're right it doesn't, think Stefano said to think of it like a big invisible hand straightening the car back up, I only used it a little while on joypad and never with the wheel