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New collision model - Amazing improvement in multiplayer experience

Discussion in 'Chit Chat Room' started by kakusso, Apr 25, 2016.

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  1. kakusso

    kakusso Hardcore Simmer

    There is an amazing improvement in the multiplayer experience since the new collision model has been implemented. No more massive crashes at T1. People are now actually breaking without being projected to the car in front by a bump at the back. In general the level of skill also has improved, except for the aliens the top ten are now separated by less than two seconds. Some new servers with 10 laps are the best now, 6 laps server are the opposite, full of "hit to pass" people. As a rule the more laps a server has the more serious the drivers there.
     
    kakusso, Apr 25, 2016
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  2. iVG

    iVG Alien

    So how does the collision model improvement influence how and when driver's use the guy in front as a brake? I don't get it...
     
    iVG, Apr 25, 2016
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  3. kakusso

    kakusso Hardcore Simmer

    The new collision model prevents the big cascade collisions at t1 but doesn't prevent guys from using the car in front as a brake. That is more related to personal values.
     
    kakusso, Apr 25, 2016
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  4. Christopher Low

    Christopher Low Alien

    The collison model certainly has improved the situation at T1, but probably only because there is less of a "domino effect". I still see (and this was clearly evident on the GT3 server where I was racing yesterday) far too many people trying to win races in the first few corners. I get the feeling that some people think that if they catch you at the start, then you are automatically slower than them, and must be overtaken at all costs :rolleyes: In addition, blue flags are still being ignored by some drivers (something that resulted in two separate crashes for me yesterday).

    Having said that, I also witnessed plenty of drivers being careful when exiting the pits, drivers slowing down on outlaps to let hot lappers through, and also generally improved "care and attention" through the first few corners by a large percentage of the grid. As usual, it's the "vocal minority" that cause all the problems.
     
    Last edited: Apr 25, 2016
    Christopher Low, Apr 25, 2016
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  5. TDS

    TDS Alien

    Public gt2 or 3 servers are where the crazy kids are, be aware lol
    ive made some races there to test new v7 tires on the gt and gte cars, they are much more fun to drive now, not going back to gt3 servers too soon, i agree its improved with new colisions and MR, bit still thos servers are where everything happens at once sometimes.
     
    TDS, Apr 25, 2016
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  6. Christopher Low

    Christopher Low Alien

    On a side note.....any suggestions regarding essential setup tweaks for the Mercedes AMG GT3 would be very welcome! I am not looking for complete setups. Just a general idea of how to get it to shift a bit quicker on track. I increased the front ARB to 6 yesterday (to keep the rear a bit more stable), and reduced the front splitter to "0", but nothing else seemed to work. My best lap @ Mugello yesterday was 1:50.052, but I really do think that I should be hitting at least the mid 1:49s by now on a regular basis....
     
    Christopher Low, Apr 25, 2016
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  7. iVG

    iVG Alien

    Message me on private I'll craft one for you.
     
    iVG, Apr 25, 2016
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  8. After_Midnight

    After_Midnight Alien

    Please load it up on setup market mate. :)
     
    After_Midnight, Apr 25, 2016
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  9. speedbee

    speedbee Hardcore Simmer

    you are not going to get faster in the amg gt3. it's not on the same level as the other gt3 cars. expect 1-3 seconds slower times.
     
    speedbee, Apr 25, 2016
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  10. iVG

    iVG Alien

    Any evidence for that?
     
    iVG, Apr 25, 2016
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  11. Tberg

    Tberg Alien

    OT:

    Have been driving C7R in several 10+ lap races lately, and certainly the improved collision detection is much appreciated. I've experienced a lot more paint trading without disasterous consequences, so much more fun!
     
    Tberg, Apr 25, 2016
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  12. After_Midnight

    After_Midnight Alien

    I think you've experienced racing :)
     
    After_Midnight, Apr 26, 2016
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  13. Tberg

    Tberg Alien

    I can race, but it´s been much more fun to push or be pushed without going "WTF!?". Also noticed a lot less rant in the chat after contacts, other than the usual guy that are 5+sec off pace.
     
    Tberg, Apr 26, 2016
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  14. kakusso

    kakusso Hardcore Simmer

    Motor racing is not a contact sport. Push and be pushed is not motor racing, at least not according to FIA standards.
     
    kakusso, Apr 26, 2016
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  15. LeDude83

    LeDude83 Alien

    I've been driving it around Barcelona and Mugello yesterday and today. What helped me was

    - Decrease rear damper rebound both fast and slow by 2 clicks
    - Increase front damper rebound both fast and slow by 1 click
    - Decrease rear neg camber to -2
    - Decrease diff accel by 1 click, increase deccel by 1 click
    - Tweak front toe one click towards positive

    These tweaks stabilized the car a lot for me but it's still pretty tricky. You simply don't want to be off throttle with lots of steering lock in this car. When you add curbs to the equation the front regrips a lot quicker than the rear in default, hence my damper tweaks.
    Then again the car seems to have very good traction out of the turns and I wonder if I'm just driving it completely wrong.

    My best lap @mugello was 1:50.5 on hard slicks.
     
    LeDude83, Apr 26, 2016
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  16. Psit

    Psit Alien

    The new netcode and collisions are HUGE improvements to me.
     
    Psit, Apr 26, 2016
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  17. Christopher Low

    Christopher Low Alien

    I will be conducting further tests tonight to see if I can isolate a setup that enables me to shift the car a bit quicker. It is becoming a bit of an obsession :)
     
    Christopher Low, Apr 26, 2016
    #17
  18. Tberg

    Tberg Alien

    Thanks, Sensei :cool:
     
    Tberg, Apr 26, 2016
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  19. Michael Hornbuckle

    Michael Hornbuckle Alien

    [​IMG]
     
    Michael Hornbuckle, Apr 26, 2016
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  20. martcerv

    martcerv Alien

    Here is our latest league reverse grid round. I didnt properly get involved in the collisions this race but a few around me had some rubbing to test them out. :D

    The collision report had me as having 2 contacts on the same lap with Rob and Matthew but I cant even see the contacts in the video must have been the lightest of touches.

    This race was a single file rolling start, I would have prefered 2 wide but our standing reverse starts didnt work and this was a last minute change so single file it was.

     
    martcerv, Apr 27, 2016
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