Generic Online car limit why!

Hi,

This is the first game I've played where there is only a certain amount cars you can use in a lobby, ie 3 of each car.

Why is this? It's rather annoying.

Rick

 

I have a like dislike relation to it, I like it because it gives a nice variation when you do a trackday but if you want to drift you only have about 4 cars available and only one is good for drifting!

 

Unfortunately this is something screwed up on PC also. While you can set it to have any number of a certain car on PC, the cars available are always predetermined and you can only pick from whatever the server has available.

 

please remove this feature

 

I second this, Id like to able to use the car I've practised in for online races. No reason why it should be limited.

 

Really ? Haven't spent much time on AC as I've been busy in league races on pcars where we can actually organise events (another story)
We often limit number of specific cars to add a little variation in our races .
My only guess here is certain cars are grouped for top speed/acceleration?
It's a bit crap though if you set a car up and then are denied it in the lobby .
Just hope the devs are working on the few things that stop this game being the best in the business.....they certainly have the physics in superb shape
A few tweaks with lobbies and I can finally turn pcars into a drinks coaster

 

Forcing a variance of cars within races is a good idea in my opinion. Even if I am not happy when only the Corvette is left for me at Mugello GP3.

 

I like this feature. Specially in Trackdays. It gives variation.

 

The reason is performance. Every car which is available on a server will be preloaded by your client when you join. So no lags or other issues if someone joins or leave the server

 

Interesting background Information. Thanks.

 

So what happens in the Fiat 500 only lobbies?

 

my comment was more meant for the situation where some guys want to join a server with any car they choose and not a limited choice from the server.

 

Major flaw with this is balancing between performance in lobbies. I understand that AC is meant to be more about the enjoyment and immersion which I am enjoying but some events make little sense in terms of car choice and variety. Take this one for example: Trackday at Nordschleife. Clearly the fastest and best performing car is the KTM X-Bow R with the nothing in even remotely in the same class available. Here's the list of other cars available:

Abarth 500EsseEsse Step 1
Alfa Romeo Mito QV
Audi S1 Quattro
Audi Sport Quattro
BMW 1M
BMW M3 E30
BMW M3 E92
BMW Z4 E89
Ford Mustang 2015
Giulietta QV Launch Edition 2014
Lotus Elise SC Step 1
Lotus Evora S
Lotus Exige 240R
Lotus Exige S
Toyota GT86

I don't think it's an issue that one car is faster than the others as that always becomes the case when the community discovers which car has an edge over all the others which can vary also dependent on track but in these online lobbies there's only one track. The KTM though is significantly better than everything else giving nothing else a chance to compete with it, only one can be selected so one person will always be significantly faster just based on car choice not driver skill which brings me to the main reason I think there is an issue with the balancing choice, the skill level variation of players. It becomes incredibly hard to judge what other players are doing in general with the lack of communication/familiarity with them, this along with being in cars with 2 to 3x the performance capabilities means it is almost never going to end well overtaking/interacting with other cars on the track. Yes there is multi-class racing in the real world but there's also rules,repercussions and risk of damage/costs that real wolrd racers wont jeopardise. To me the KTM is closer to the Nismo R35 GTR than it is the next closest rival in that trackday.

 

Hmmm. For a track day full balancing is not the idea I guess. It is more like free racing on a track together with others no matter what car they drive. Actually I think thats a new thing for a racing game. I never saw this in other games. Much more sense it would make if we could have 100 Players on Nordschleife track day at once =)

For races for sure the selectable cars should be of an equal kind. But thats the case as far as I saw it yet.

 

Would make more sense to just give us a group of cars based around a performance level or better yet why not just all cars since we aren't even racing. I mean when you stop and think about it, the point of multiplayer is to play with other people/friends, but it's not really like that when the cars in front disappear after one or two corners and likewise for the cars behind with considerably lesser stats. I have already been in the lobby I used as an example multiple times with groups of teammates and friends and after a couple of corners we are all so spread out due to the performance differences that we don't really have any fun other than driving the car we're in which might be fine now since we are getting such wonderfully unique experiences in each and every car but it pretty much just feels like i'm grinding single player races and can't really have any consistent fun with friends in a way of putting it. My team are mostly about drifting and we're used to bending fenders but there is very little to none of that the way it's set with the performance differences and 1 model per lobby limit. The latter also ruins the opportunity to all drive the same car which is something drifters and racers alike enjoy to gauge skill levels much more accurately(goes back to my skill level issue).

 

Yes also I think the same. You want to drive Z4 GT3 for instant but you can not because is already taken by other few players..... not so good because in many cases everyon has one or two favourite models in eeach class...

 

It was explained, already: performance reasons. When everyone can choose any car they want your flimsy console hardware will have to swap huge chunks of data in and out of the RAM and VRAM as you're fighting hard for a good lap time or positions.
With Kunos' approach your console loads (almost) everything it will ever need for the race before you enter the track. It can then focus on processing physics and image as you race.

 

I really hope you're getting treatment for your passive aggression issues.
I don't even know what in my post made you so upset...the term "flimsy"? If a PS4 is only almost on par with my flimsy CPU doesn't that mean I'm right in calling the consoles flimsy?!?
Anyways, it's exactly the same on the PC if that helps in this discussion and for the same reasons - to save computing resources for a smoother race. There's no mod that changes this...IIRW it can't be changed.

 

When your cpu costs almost as much as a PS4 alone yet only just specs better from factory, you don't have to wonder which of the two is flimsy and who should and shouldn't be throwing stones when they live in a glass house.

 

Your causal chain aside, where exactly did I throw stones?