Generic Pc vs console bug reporting.

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Sorry to abuse your time and courtesy, but what about differences between PC and console updates? Like brake pressure for all cars, which was introduced on PC by the 1.10 update on Nov. 22? Unfortunately, It's still missing on consoles.
Every time a PC update is released, do the PC team "send it" to the console team, which need to introduce all the new fixes and features for PS4 and Xbox? Is that how It works?
Thank you for your time, Luca. Have a good evening.

 

Good question. I think your right how it works.

 

We accept the patches take time to approve but this does little to explain the variation between the base versions of the game. If the same versions of the game were just a few days even weeks apart you would have few complaints. There are elements of the PC game such as custom controls that are simply missing from the console version. Then we have issues such as cars assigned to the wrong class in single player races. The Porsche Pack 2 Special Events being missed from the PP2 launch, surely the suggestion isn't that this was caused by console patch delays? Then we have specific console issues like the ever troublesome framerate that we have no idea if anyone is addressing. These issues are not caused by patch approval delays.

How does every other developer manage? I see often see patches on the same day, sometimes a couple of days apart sometimes but never this kind of issue with other games.

 

Because they let pc players wait for their patch so consoles get them at the same time which take away one of the advantages with pc: that you dont need to get patches trough certification but yet we suffer from it. I dont know how that would improve the game for console players to have pc wait for patches.

 

I haven't got a problem with pc getting it months before console, it's a pc game ported to console. I just want the same feedback as pc side get in fixing/problem solving. The bug list hasn't been touched by Kunos for over 2 weeks in console section. In pc side it's more or less instant. I haven't got a problem with waiting until next update either to receive it. I just want to know that it's been reported, then updated to no issue,working on it, fixed as in the pc side.
I also don't understand why there's critical bits of the sim missing, button config, bits added in pc updates then left out of console version. I also don't understand why pretty basic bugs are released with updates, I mean we was going on for months about game setups not working, then when that is fixed after 6 months the other 2 bits on same page are now broke. Another pretty basic bug was from update 1.09 to 1.10 when the brake bias d pad on wheel was broke, this didn't work for 6 weeks.
I also don't want to think I'm some sort of continual complainer, because if you look through my posts I actually think your handling system/feel on wheel is tremdous which keeps bringing me back to the game, also if I didn't care about the game I wouldn't bother posting in the first place.

 

kofo, that's not the issue here, I agree no need to delay PC updates at all. No matter how long the delay the missing elements from the console games aren't going to be added when they are not in the code in the first place. When we have to wait for other games patches when we get them they are the same not a very different version.

 

But porting is your job and when you release a retail boxed game we have a reasonable expectation that the game will work as advertised. This is not an early access, beta or programme where we expect major bugs or items to be missing and you to add them over time. It has taken your team 6 months to solve a basic Xbox One save game issue, which was only resolved when Microsoft escalated the issue.

You and/or the publisher have implemented systems of bug reporting that are either ineffective or being ignored. The issues on the forum are often repeated because they remain unresolved, the very point of this thread. If customers are frustrated with a lack of answers what do you expect them to do? No one is swearing or ridiculing individuals here just questioning the state of the game.

Telling us, your customers, the ones who've paid good money for your products and stuck with you to this point to go leave is the second worst customer relations approach I've ever encountered, the Lord owns the worst example when he called a forum user a goat. Of course if the objective is to slowly get us to go away and save yourselves the problem of actually fixing the game then this may well be the point.

Superb, glorious game on PC and at the same time the most bug ridden and feature lacking console game of 2016. If you decide to ban me from your forum the issue will not go away, I intend to make sure you fulfil those marketing claims and will also work with your industry regulators to make sure this type of behaviour cannot happen to consumers in future. You hold all the cards here - delight the customer and win us over with the quality of your work, not excuses.

 

My personal opinion is that the emphasis has been on realism, totally at the expense of fun and a cohesive career experience. The bugs jus serve to drain the fun out of it even more.
Once the initial "wow this feels great" factor has worn off, there's very little progression or draw to come back and play more. The game feels incomplete and lacking. I recently returned to PCars after a five month AC sabbatical and in comparison it feels like it's been written with the user in mind, rather than a showcase for its programmers talents.
Like I say, just my opinion. It's taken a while, but the playability of AC has gone. There's nothing to keep going back to. The game, and to be fair as a console player, all feels a bit cold and disconnected.

 

Maybe there are two kinds of players on console today: 1- those who like the traditional bollocks that caters for people after 'fun' (fireworks, prize wheelspins, leaping bunnies, so on...) and 2- those more serious minded who are after a good driving feel, full stop.

Although you're entitled to your opinion, I believe the initial "wow " factor to which you refer wouldn't have worn off if you were a player of the 2nd category above. I never get tired of this game, actually the more I play it the more I like it, for the driving feel alone. I like it is of a Spartan kind; actually, I'd hate it if they decided to make it more 'fun' by bringing in those abominable gaming elements of category 1 (just my opinion).

Good to know you've found a game you like more. We're all different and there's plenty out there to cater for all tastes. Is AC perfect? Of course not. There are still lots of things missing that are hopefully coming. But am I tired of the game for this? No, like @ppbucko says above, in spite of its present shortcomings, I always want to go back to it for its addictive handling system.

 

I actually think there's 3 kinds of players, there's the wheelspins, fireworks as you put it lol, then there's the hardcore sim racers who demand the good driving feel, then there's the ones who race in small racing communities, leagues who want the driving feel but also require the game multiplayer to do this on.
I put myself in the 3rd category, the game delivers on driving feel but sadly at present let's us down on all the other fronts.

 

Thanks for the reply. I tried to sum it up but I know It's not an easy process, for updates and new features as well.
I also understand that each update needs to be approved by Sony and Microsoft and that takes time. Personally, I don't mind waiting and I'd be happy to wait a little more if that would mean bigger updates with more fixes, improvements etc.

 

I agree!! I didn't think so long time to have a console version upgrade. I'm disappointing.

 

No patronising meant. You said you've lost your interest in AC for its focus on realism and lack of joy/enjoyment/fun... whatever. If realism makes you feel bored and you say you crave for fun, how am I patronising you if that leads me to understand you'd rather have more of those Forza 'leaping bunnies' like fun in this game so it would be enjoyable? My interpretation could be wrong, but I'm not to blame.

Like I said, if you are of the kind that thinks the simulation aspects of a game matters more than those 'fun' stuff of other ordinary console games, you'll still enjoy AC in spite of its still obvious shortcomings; there's plenty to enjoy there, if you have a mind to driving with realism. Other than that, of course it could be tiresome for its Spartan like style.

Missing features and bugs? With all that, the game is fully playable and enjoyable; if the problems are eventually addressed (hopefully they will), it will only add to the enjoyment of playing it. But that's only my view and you aren't at fault for having a different opinion. Sorry if it sounded like I was patronising you.

 

Long time since the last update on the bug report section. Hope it will be updated soon.

PD: Apreciate to see the devs on the console forum