Real vs game, Tiff Needell and the Audi R8

Interesting video from the wonderful EVO guys demonstrating the difference between a wheel-driven real life environment and a simulated x-box controller game. Most of the video is ok until around 7:10, when Tiff talks drops the magic words "feel" and "grip." The end of the video pretty much sums up why Assetto Corsa is the best racing simulation of 2013-14, because of the manner in which the cars react to steering.

Noteworthy also is Tiff's comments on severe understeer and the need for throttle-controlled turn-in. On another post concerning the MP4, comments were made about the difficulty at obtaining turn-in speed...Tiff pretty much explains this and is just one more reason why AC brings reality, even in its painful moments, to the gaming world.

 

i stopped it as soon as that guy said "im going to drive with this".

 

Fifth Gear and Top Gear before it have done a few features like this. I haven't even bothered watching this one - I subscribe to their You Tube feed so saw it when it was posted up. Everyone knows that Forza and Gran Turismo are games for adults to play over a few beers before they go clubbing or for kids to play on rainy days; taking them seriously is missing the point. I race in real life too, and I realise you have to adapt your senses somewhat to get on with a sim, and I'll never be as quick in Assetto Corsa as I am in real life, but if you can open your mind to PC sims like AC and adapt your senses then they're absolutely bloody brilliant, and I believe AC is the best there is.

 

You didn't miss much , dumb comparison anyway. Now if Tiff would play AC with mp4-12c and 458, I'd love to see that.

 

Lol!

He should played the game with a wheel.

Cars have the potential to have understeer. It's not as enjoyable fact of physics as oversteer. But it does happen.

And if a gamer post a youtube video with a rubbish driving-style and a lot of understeer (with TC and ABS). It is proof for a hardcore simracer that the sim is arcade and the physics are wrong and the tire model surface temps suck and ...

 

Agree. Hopefully they hear about the game. Tiff did an interesting 458/MP4 comparison a while back, comparing both real cars to the game's would be very interesting.

 

How many cars are driven via a gamepad, outside of that who really wants to drive Fonza - Sunday, Monday (Happy Days) Tuesday, Wednesday (Happy Days) etc etc - Sorry that song always goes through my head when I hear that game title.

It would be much better to see what would happen when they used a wheel, but then how good would Tiff be against some of the best Sim racers, that would be fun, if they used a SIMULATOR not an ARCADE game.

 

Speaking of R8, seen the latest Harris vid?



These two in AC, njami...

 

I won't bother making a new thread about the same subject, but here's an interesting article about real vs gaming (gran turismo acadamy related)

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tech/al...real-life-just-how-realistic-is-it-video.html

 

Very interesting read.

 

How much do you think Sony pay Honda for such an advert?

To put it in context, would you allow someone without a driving license, say a 12-16 year old, to drive your sports car because he was fast with a gamepad? LOL

 

What is it you're aiming at, GT Academy and Nissan? I don't think they pay much, if anything at all. Have you seen the number of Nissan's in the GT games? There's like 286 different version of the Skyline alone

I think the top guys at Nissan are close friends with the maker of GT, Kazunori Yamauchi, who have collaborated closely with Nissan in designing the UI of Nissan GT-R. The Acadamy is probably a mutual publicity stunt, extremely successful from the looks of things

 

Theres an older one where Tiff playes few racers and tells in short what he thinks about them.
I general when asking a racing driver "how realistic is this sim?", the compliments in the answer usually consists of the graphics and the doodads in the game rather than the feel of it. Most of these sessions are just publicity stunts and have nothing to do with what kind of product is at hand.
Then again if you just take it with a grain of salt, they are fun to watch and when things like for example Grönholm tearing off a hand brake from RBR rig happen, makes them even hillarious.

 

Yeah, I remember seeing those too. Forgot about em until now.

 

I don't know why I said Honda, I'm old and have young children, sometimes the world gets too much! Sorry I meant Nissan, I really have to lay off the late nights.

 

Assetto Corsa deMANDS late nights...esp. with AI on the way

 

Get your priorities straight! Because;

 

I've never seen the part Tiff testing those games/sims. He chose Dirt... Though he was right about iRacing, I think RBR(and LFS which he both didn't testdrive) was the best in terms of handling/feel/tyres/physics. Until AC came out

Cheers
Robin

 

i stopped here: "simulated x-box controller game"