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Simracing Race Fuel Calculator

Discussion in 'ACC Tools' started by Elrann, Nov 20, 2019.

  1. Elrann

    Elrann Racer

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    Simracing Race Fuel Calculator, or shortly SRFC, is the evolution of our original Race Fuel Calculator which was made specifically only for Assetto Corsa Competizione and was limited only to track from ACC and GT3 class cars only.
    After a lot of requests and very good feedback from all of you, players and members of our community, we decided to make universal, definitive and especially very precise and accurate fuel calculator tool for simracers, which will not be limited only to one particular game, but you can use it for any racing game on the market. If you want iRacing Fuel Calculator, or need Fuel Calculator for any other favorite game, new SRFC is there for you!

    How does it works?
    Everything you need is to select whether is your race counted in time or based on number of laps, then input race length in minutes or number of laps, your average lap time or lap time on which you want to aim in the race and then just your fuel consumption per lap.

    Simracing Race Fuel Calculator calculate for you the following things:
    - How many laps you probably do / length of race in minutes
    – Minimum fuel load (for those who like challenges and don’t want any spare fuel left in tank at the end of the race – however, keep in mind that your fuel consumption per lap may vary during the race!)
    – Safe fuel load or fuel load for races with full formation lap.
    – Recommended fuel load which is the best balance between all previously mentioned and it is always recommended – our algorithm not let you down in middle of last lap with empty fuel tank and at the same time you not finish with 20 litres of fuel remaining in tank.

    Mythiq.net Simracing Race Fuel Calculator is available here:
    https://mythiq.net/fuelcalc
     
    Last edited: Aug 22, 2020
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  3. romandevision

    romandevision Simracer

    Looks snugly! Thanks for your work!
     
  4. Racert46

    Racert46 Simracer

    Thank you for this simple tool, i was using my phone calculator.
     
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  5. Turk

    Turk Alien

    Yeah it was a real pain trying to figure it all while peering under my VR headset, I was converting the minutes into seconds and then trying to work out how many laps I could do in that time. I've bookmarked this on the phone now, should make things much easier.
     
  6. Oblit0r

    Oblit0r Alien

    Don't want to sound like a d!ck, but it doesn't calculate fuel correctly. Even with the 'safety reserve' it's way off.

    A 90 minute race at Monza for example:
    60x90=5400 seconds

    Monza is ~1:48 laptimes
    5400/108=50 laps

    3.1L per lap in the Aston for example
    50x3.1=155L

    Your fuel calculator tells me I need 198L. The tool says 'Including safety reserve approx. of 16L'.
    198-16=182L, while in reality I only need 155L.

    Edit: Wow, this tool is even buggier than I initially thought xD
    90 minute race at zolder with 3.1L per lap gives me a result of 242L
     
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2019
  7. Coanda

    Coanda Alien

    Thank you for providing a tool to the community. A little feedback if I may..

    - The website is taking 60+ seconds to fully load.
    - A small spelling mistake.

    acc_fuel_calc_mis.jpg
     
  8. Firmi

    Firmi Gamer

    I use either my calculator or racingstrats.com when I feel lazy or for a confirmation I didn't misscalculated something.
    Not being able to use an average laptime for the calculation seems very weird. Nice idea but lot of room for improvements and even then there are several other calculators already available...
     
  9. Elrann

    Elrann Racer

    Thank you for your feedback and suggestions.

    @Oblit0r
    For longer races RFC still calculates a bit more than I want, however for shorter races (like 20-30 minutes) it is ok.

    I will fix this for longer races soon, really appreciate your feedback. :)

    @Firmi
    "Not being able to use an average laptime for the calculation seems very weird. "

    - This is because average lap times per every track are set in calculator. This is why you need to choose track in calculator. It's more user friendly.
     
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2019
  10. Oblit0r

    Oblit0r Alien

    It's the same for shorter races tho.

    30 Minute race at Monza, by my own calculation I need 52L (I would add fuel for 1 extra lap which gives me 55-56L). Your tool shows me I need 66L.
    20 Minute race at Monza, I need 35L + 1 lap = 38-39L. Your tool shows me 44.

    Your tool calculates fuel for 14.2 laps in a 20 minute race, when with 1:46 laptimes (you probably will never see these times during a race) you would only need fuel for 11.3 laps.

    Would be an idea to let users override the preset laptimes you've put in the tool, because in different griplevels and conditions (static medium rain for example), laptimes will differ a lot from the times you've put in the tool, rendering the outcome of the calculation pretty useless.
     
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2019
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  11. @Elrann Many thanks for your work but this should be a proper fuel calculator should be a part of the game itselfs.
    There is absolute no reason for the Kunos guys to still withhold this feature :cool:

    How many race drivers are sitting in the car with a laptop to calculate the necessary fuel for the race and tell the result to their race engineers?
     
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  12. lordpatou

    lordpatou Simracer

    Maybe there is a bias like counting a full formation lap instead of a short one.
     
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2019
  13. Oblit0r

    Oblit0r Alien

    It does, but even then it calculates about 2 laps too much fuel for a 20 minute race.
     
  14. Firmi

    Firmi Gamer

    How can you know what the average laptime for me will be? Maybe I'm so slow, I'll get lapped, or I'm one of the Aliens who does one or two laps more than all the others.
    You say it's more userfriendly when in reality it's just unnecessary and kind of useless when instead you could easily ask the user to put in an average laptime, or maybe even give us both options.
     
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  15. bratt01

    bratt01 Gamer

    Race time in minutes * 60 / laptime in seconds = total laps.
    Totals laps + 1 multiply by fuel used per lap = total fuel.

    It's a very simple calc to do on your phone, small calculator or an excel sheet.
     
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  16. Elrann

    Elrann Racer

    Yes, this is one of reason why RFC calculating a bit more fuel. It is not unusual that on some MP servers are two formation laps before race starts due to some weird bug, so I choose more safer way to calculate fuel. At the end of the day, having 10 litres more per 20/30 min race does not do a big difference in lap times. Still better to lose 0.100 per lap than 45 secs by refueling. For longer races it is issue indeed, however I'll do my best to modify calculator to calculate less reserve for longer races.
    Also RFC counting with possible fuel consumption rate change during race.


    I calculated it by taking track record and average lap times from Q at MP servers by all players and calculated median. Having both options to choose is good idea, thank you.
     
  17. Elrann

    Elrann Racer

    Race Fuel Calculator was balanced a bit for more precise and accurate fuel calculation. For longer is still a bit more fuel reserve, however at least for shorter ones its now just approx one lap.
     
  18. Elrann

    Elrann Racer

    RFC was updated and added tracks from new Intercontinental GT DLC.
     
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  19. Elrann

    Elrann Racer

    Intercontinental GT DLC tracks were balanced to be fuel calculations more accurate.
     
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  20. Elrann

    Elrann Racer

    We finished moving our website and services to new powerful servers, so everyone can fully use Race Fuel Calculator again.

    My apologies for unavailability of RFC in past two days.
     
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  21. Elrann

    Elrann Racer

    We done few changes in fuel calculation for some tracks, so calculations should be more accurate for long stints.
     

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