A thread for project cars

Did a few laps around Spa in the GT3. I don't think it looks nowhere near as photo realistic as AC's Spa(fanboy aside). I take AC's version any day. Also looks completely wrong in some parts.

 

Then why call it a TRUE SIM? I mean SIM!
I perfectly understand your opinion and it was clear that the sim part went through the toilet when they announced the game for consoles also. And I mean X360 and ps3, which might not be crap but you need special engineers to do the job, basically rewrite the game, especially for ps3.
But because customers will begin comparing what different platforms offer it was inevitable to see the big axe in action for that title in particular.
I remember like 3 years or so ago when I saw a video of an LMP1 car - I was amazed. And then the axe began - pre-rendered videos vs in-game footage, then graphics looked more and more poor, to the extent that in recent videos the sunlight behind the trees became black, WTF SMS?!
So, yeah. We will see where the sim part of this game will end but right now I don't see any1 dethroning A.C. At least not in my book.
I admit I play Dirt Rally lately but that's because it's a totally different experience - rallying, and it's a new game. After a full rally last night, I decided to fire up A.C. Man ... it felt veeeeryyyyyy gooooood!

 

TC is for loosers only

 

Humanity in a nutshell.

 

and people who should not be allowed within 100 feet of an F1 car i think

 

With the totally opposed opinions in this thread I'm having a hard time deciding if pCARS is for me or not, so I guess I will delay my purchase until the next Steam sale.

 

the glory of steam (& patient people)

 

Pretty sure same thing would happen with real F1 cars and not F1 drivers. (also a lot of death)

 

You ask, you receive........

 

that would make pCARS very realistic, won't it ?

 

well im sure nobody here has ever done that...

 

the logs was clearly joke, and joking is fine,
making fun of isn't , but I agree that he only said that this is AC support forum, which it is,

my reaction was that on pCARS forum, people - community - are more friendly towards other sims, including AC, and I only wished that it was more similar here, more understanding and respect,

the fact that he is dev makes his post different, because as a developer, he is absolutely entitled to tell people that this isn't pCARS forum, and as i said, since I have overlooked it, and thought it's just another user here, I just voiced my oppinion that I would wish for people to be more friendly

anyhow, thanks for explaning and all that, back to topic (which doesn't belong to these forums anyway )

I think both SMS and Kunos could learn a lot from each other, they each broght some unique aspects into their games, if they combined the product, it would quite possibly be the best sim ever
and I'm totally calm btw.

 

My opinion was mentioned on post #502. Truth is that is far more realistic that i was expected to be. But it is incomplete.

 

I just hate the UI in PC, I don't really feel kerbs/accelleration/decelleration through the wheel like I do in AC, but it's also awesome to drive the 300SEL 6.8 AMG and my own 1M in light rain. Seriously, the way the cars do their thing in rainy circumstances and the FFB (which I haven't touched yet!) I just feels right(being irl a driftfanatic) to me:

So physics in rain 1M: Excellent(vs real life)

Through 'Schumacher'3rd gear oversteery, wet:


Just like this:

Snetterton? So nice:


Brands:


I don't yell 'oh and aah' in a sim/game normally, but I did when driving in my 1M through the rain.
Last time I yelled oh and aah was when driving Nordschleife Endurance in my E30 DTM vs 14 other DTM cars @ P1 , the rest kicking my rearbumper almost, on green surface from Flugplatz/Schwedenkreuz/Aremberg/Fuchsröhre to Adenauer Forst, in Assetto Corsa off course

Cheers
Robin

 

i think some AC fans fear pCARS is a big shark going to devour little AC

meanwhile AC devs think cool, more simracers = more sales

 

It would probably happen to real F1 drivers if they were driving their cars with a keyboard (virtual wheel input says all).

 

I'm thinking, that you are thinking, that Kunos are thinking, that if a game is made both for consoles and pc, it will not require much thinking, that this game (for concoles + pc) will have more sales, which is a no-brainer.
Which made me thinking ... is your opinion thought through or is it just your thinking we all think about?

 

I've got to disagree with you on that point

The general 'feel' from the AC devs is quite different from, let's just say some devs of other titles. Others can be a little too aggressive in managing their community which doesn't look good from an outsiders POV and can make potential (long term) customers switch off.
Here it could be argued that you're too lax, however you wouldn't have the same community if you weren't.

 

First, thanks to Kunos for letting us talk about this title with other simmers/racers who we already know. Appreciated.

So to business. Finally had some time to spend with the game last night.
Bear in mind, I was expecting Shift 3, no more no less.
Does it deliver? No. It does not. Not that anyway....

Firstly, I regard the use of the term "simcade" as a derogatory term to be utterly bizarre.
Surely the word represents the true ideal? Sim game with access to all those goodies you only normally get in arcade titles: polish, licenses galore, huge amounts of really well made content.
Why would we not want that?
Shift2 was simcade and proud, and a bloody great title, the best we've ever had on PC. Sure the physics were pants, even after the community patch and tire models, but it was still massively entertaining and I enjoyed it loads.

So, I load up PCars, looking for Shift3. And it's not that.

The graphics - Not as impressive as I imagined, however I have spent zero time on tweaking, and there is lots of headroom in the defaults it gave me to improve things, so will reserve judgement for now, suffice to say that out of the box it isn't as pretty as Shift 2 was (yes, Shift 2 was OTT, but we have enough "dry" sims, what's wrong with a little glitz and glamour?).

The sounds - Though some cars do sound a little weak internally , the overall environmental sounds are superb, I threw some Clio's around Donington and watching the replays I knew they'd done a sterling job (I was there 3 weeks ago watching the exact same thing).

The content - A mixed bag. Shift2 had more cars than you could throw a truck full of cats at. In comparison the pickings are a little slimmer, though they are more diverse, but I guess this is the price paid for losing EA's mighty backing. But, the saving grace is the BTCC content, the Clios and Ginettas will keep me amused for a long time to come. Thankfully, unlike the cars, the track content is brilliant, a nice mixed bag, something for everyone and tonnes of UK tracks! Ace!

The physics - Wait what? I was expecting Shift3, this isn't Shift3, this feels grown up, or at least maturing nicely. Is it a Sim? Not sure, I'll leave that for others (who take these things far more seriously than I do) to decide. However these tires have life, the LMPs felt rightly stiff. the Corsa slid around like a giddy puppy. This is great! Compared to Shift2 this is a massive leap forward in terms of physical realism. Is it a contender to go up against the established sims? Maybe, just maybe, especially as none (except perhaps GSCE) have yet to find the right balance for their tire models. Tires seem to be in flux everywhere at the moment, and PCars has at least earned itself a place at the table.

So I didn't get Shift 3, I got something else. Something a bit rougher around the edges, less packed with awesome cars, but something more mature, more evolved.
I think I might just enjoy this.