Minorating.com (drivers thread)

We all appreciate the work that you've done for the community. If there is anything I/we can do for you to help you get some sleep, I for one would be happy to help.

 

No need to apologize.

However, if you could provide me with a current model of the grade calculation and assuming the displayed data could be available as a strucured JSON object, I'd be happy to help you with some keystrokes o' mine.
Regarding the model, I could even use the one on minorating.com, if only the numbers are outdated and interchangeable.

 

I thought so and as a sowftware developer I feel your pain, bro.
Just in case you need someone to do some stuff for your website and such: You know we're here.

 

will i get punished by minorating for being in a crash/contact with a lapped player?

 

should be a bit more imo and nothing for those that are lap/s ahead. i cant remember one time when i have been joiningthe race late and being in a incident with a driver that have done more laps than me, i can remember multiple times when i have been in an accident with players that are lapped though.

the difference is
1. that lapped players that are in accidents are the ones that dont show respect for the blue flag and let others pass
2. the players that have lapped a car that are in an accident are the ones that meet the 1st example

 

There are drivers, trying to be clean and fair, but are new to simracing. Those get ab, but might not be capable of letting someone through yet.
Personally i think a blue flagged car is not allowed to defend, but has not to make the pass possible in any situation. On straights it is easy, just lift throttle a bit, but in corners, or combination of corners, some will start struggling when trying to. Faster guys could wait for a good opportunity, i dont overtake my direct opponent, when we both are about to lap someone, after that the race is "on" again.
Responsibility is on the driver that tries to overtake, lapped or not, so i think some cp is justified if something goes wrong.

 

I show respect and doesnt force an overtake, and thats one of the reason that im usually getting ****ed by them. Because when I meet a lapped player that wont let me pass its the same player that will push me off track when i actually get a chance to pass him. People that dont care about blue flag is 9/10 times a douche bag that dont care about others. I dont know how many good battles against cars that are on the same lap as me that I have missed the opportunity to enjoy because im stuck behind a car that joined on lap ~6 out of 10. I could live with this if they didnt cause accidents so often and having the bad luck to run into these do punish you as a fair driver more than anything.

The responsibility is NOT only on the car that is supposed to overtake. If youre on the same lap, sure. But not if you going to pass someone that joined the race late and defend his position by any means. If you dont see this as a issue i can only congratulate you, you obviously havent run into these as often as me or you meet the ones that show respect.

from minorating page:

My issue is the retards that defend. The ones that dont defend are usually not in accidents and wont get penalized by minorating.

 

It is indeed a huge issue, that many drivers dont know the meaning of blue flags. (and other rules/ettiquette)
I am totally with you, when you say: a lapped driver that defends should be punished hard!
As mino said the lapped car will get more "points", i think a little motivation for the lapping car not to be too careless is a good thing.

 

yeah, to completely take away the penalty would probably be wrong since idiots could use it to their advantage and get blue flag drivers demoted to lower ratings. i dont know if this is possible to solve somehow, give the system a feel for how long the car with blue flag have been ahead maybe?

 

I don't know about anyone else, but it seems that lately there has been a massive increase to the amount of idiots on track and even when you have no contacts caused by yourself you get hammered with MR points. I know I have caused two incidents (nobody left the track we kept to the road) in the last week where I have actually hit someone, yet I have gone from 9/10 MR points to now 25. It has been people rejoining , ramming, t-bones, over egging it in corners, bad driving yet I know every accident that I have caused. This is getting out of hand. Tonight I have had over 5 points added and not one of them has been caused by me. Please Minolin, sort this out. There is no reason to be in A-B servers as no matter where you are you get massive points. I leave room, I even give places away to avoid contact. I am getting hammered here and it is becoming a joke.

 

The basic rules should be written down inside AC, in my opinion.
Hovering the mouse over the join button could trigger a link to the basic rules.
That link could be ignored easily by clicking on join. (Mouse would have to be moved to the link)
In racing you have to rely on each other, so it would make sense to educate all players about the basic rules.
Giving them the option to read them easily might help.
If many drivers read them we could see a change in mentality, especially when they realise that it is more fun / less wrecking that way and tell others to follow the rules.

 

Or two different server lists, one for people that agree to do a driving/racing school and one for those that dont care. Maybe something for AC2.

 

It seems to be more about proving your dominance by being ahead. Not that they are any good at racing, just that they are ahead. It is becoming a freakin nightmare. Another 2 points added in three races. One caused by myself for not being able to stop as they used their brakes 50m before the real braking point. Just ridiculous.

 

if i remember correctly your attack % matter alot with hit points. Minorating consider it better if you have, lets say 10 hitpoints and 30% attack than 4 hit points and 2% attack. I dont know the math but hopefully you understand what i mean.

 

It's not the CP that are the bad thing, it's a few driver's behaviour.
The do unsafe track rejoins, block any try to overtake, cut you off, divebomb every chance they see*, etc.
That is the thing which sometimes really kills the mood to do online racing.

*situations where there is no realistic chance, but they either force it or crash both

 

I never check on my CP because I don't get what's interesting about them. Is it like some highscore hunting to get the most km/cp?