AI painfully slow in Race Weekend practice...

I set up a race weekend at Mugello in the Lotus Evora GX. AC chose the field for me, which included fast cars like the McLaren and the Ferrari 458 Italia. In the practice session (AI at 98%) the AI cars were so slow that they were speedbumps; they were lapping 2:07 where the slowest competitive lap in most of these cars should be ~1.54. My PB here is 1.52:573 and that's not stellar. Does anyone know what's going on? Does the AI get its act together in quals? Otherwise how can I organize a good contest against decent AI?

 

Then why not play with 100% AI at least that will better the situation a little bit, i guess. By the way i wonder if AC will actually have 120% AI consider it 100% AI are actually quite amateur according to all the feedback

Anyway so far i actually have no faith on how good AC's AI going to be, i believe Kunos are very good in doing excellent realism racing game in term of physic according to all the feedback but i also believe they actually not very good if not at all in doing some other thing example like programming excellent AI.

You see they even having a hard time to include a basic "delete" button in setup menu where it should be there by common sense from the very first day but the fact is that this option still not there after so many updates, quite surprising actually, at least to me

 

The AI was much more faster and aggressive in the previous build. Since 0.8.5, they brake again too much early on chicanes and hairpins.

 

Well, maybe next time there are whines about AI being too aggresive, those who dissagree will speak up so that devs know which way to go!

 

I believe being as aggressive as possible but within the rules is the way to go, just like GSC 2013's AI, fast & aggressive but hardly do any unfair or dangerous move. It know when to keep pushing & when it should give up.
So far i not yet see any complain about this GSC 2013 AI like what i see here, AC AI is quite weak at the moment, even F1 2013 has better AI too. At least player dont need to use some different tyre to slow themselve down in order to at least have some fun "racing" with those AI

By the way i see there a "AC Licensed" below my profile, i wonder how Kunos know my copy is genius while my steam account is set to private ?? They can hack into my steam account ??

 

This is why we need an AI aggressiveness slider.

Kunos are responding to the 'AI ramming posts' that have been common on here. Quite often when there's a video to go with the post you see the player taking an absurd line into a corner, moving around in the braking zone or ridiculous dive bombing, the sort of stuff that'd result in the offender being handed a season ban, or worse, in real world racing. Unfortunately the AI has to cater for people that drive like that, hopefully Kunos can find the resources to continue working on the AI as they develop AC and provide something that appeals to more experienced, careful racers as well as banger champions

 

I dont mind they know but like to know how they know while my steam account is set to private. Steam let them to check every suspicious account even if it in private status or something like that ??

 

Most likely they (a robot allowed by Steam) can check your Steam account for the game whether it's private or not.
Back on topic, try AI in different cars. They all still need some work but some are better than others. I'm one of the many waiting for MP but I've had some good races with AI in some cars. Remember they are WIP and this forum is to let the devs know your concerns so they can be improved.

 

I like the fact that the AI are unpredictable and make mistakes. Even if its a mistake that's caused by dodgy programming I don't care as long as it resembles something a human might do.

Kunos need to root out the bizarre behaviour like braking to a stop at hairpins, but the incidents such as when you're following an AI car very closely and they get into a tank slapper and wipe you both out, that's racing

 

But what if i play a game which purchase by my bro using his account ??

Yeah of course i 100% aware of that but then i having a good faith that AC's AI will not match Gsc 2013's AI even after v1.0 is released

 

Then it's possibly looking at your HDD

Again, that's what these forums are for. If you're not happy with some aspect, let the devs know so they can improve it. The more precise you are the better chance of the devs fixing it. Of course it's all a matter of personal taste too. Something that you like might not be what others expect, and vice versa, so there must always be compromise.

 

I dont think Kunos dont know how a good AI suppose to be & i do believe they know about this GSC 2013 AI too so now the actual question is that how to program to make those AI become as good as that ... i believe currently Kunos is lacking those programming skill to make a better AI, 1000 more feedbacks wont gonna help on this.
Consider every one who play GSC 2013 are very satisfy & happy with the AI so aim to make AC's AI as good as that should be the way to go, no need to collect another 1000s more feedback on this matter, just make that AI & i bet at least 99% of complain about AI will be gone.

 

I'm glad the devs are investigating this. I didn't expect the Race Weekend feature to work perfectly in its first iteration. The behavior of the AI in the example I have given is nothing to do with aggression or coded behavior, both of which seem fine. They are simply 13 seconds per lap too slow, which is a conspicuous problem that Kunos will want to investigate.

 

@Lazybug The AI were too aggressive and now they aren't aggressive enough....they would ram you off the track and now they won't pass you at all....sounds like Kunos are finding the extremes of the AI behaviors and can now find a 'happy spot' somewhere in the middle...if you don't see the progress being made and have no faith then you much be blind..

 

yeah I like the old AI, merge the two some how, and we are nearly there with a better ai!

 

Kunos is programming the next generation of AI with more advanced features like multable fast lines and very unique human-like racing behaviors which older sims didn't use so this new technology will make it even more complicated to get it all correct, but i have alot of faith in Kunos and their potential to get it done!

When Kunos finalizes this next generation AI i believe AC will have the very best AI that anyone ever experienced in a sim!

 

I am sad to report that the AI is completely useless on Mugello, in all race sessions. Even at 100%, my grandmother could drive a Ferrari 458 faster than this. In all sessions their pace is ~2.05:xx - 2.07:xx, which is 13 seconds off the slowest plausible competitive human lap time and makes overtaking a tiresome chore instead of a challenge

I am annoyed about this. Not because I do not recognize that this is a beta and that the AI is a WIP, I just feel that I have been wasting my time trying to get minimal functionality out of a feature (racing vs. the AI at Mugello in the Lotus Evora GX) that is more DOA than WIP. I am discouraged from even trying to race against the AI now unless someone can suggest a venue that can test my decent but not stellar racing skills against competitive AI. Otherwise it's back to hotlapping.

EDIT: Happy to report that in an all-Evora field the pace is much more competitive. What I experienced previously might have been an anomaly connected with a mixed field or a field chosen automatically by the sim...?

 

You will usually get your best results with a grid of the same car type because all the AI physics are identical and use nearly the same braking points and race lines!