AMS (Automobilista)

Yeah, I meant for Reiza not the game

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oh ok .. I wish they stick to that gem they created from original rF engine

 

I really like the AI in AMS, you can actually have a decent race with them in every car (I've tried so far.)

Here's a clip of me Hot Car hunting in my Opala The AI don't give up when your side by side and they will try and pass the player car from behind. They make the odd big mistake as well and turn themselves into roadblocks.

 

I am also having a great time with AMS' current AI - please use the time stamps I provide in the first comment under the video:


Here a three class multiclass race:


It's so much fun!
(That doesn't mean that I've forgotten to play Assetto Corsa. )

 

Interesting.
I am wondering what's the difference between the AMS new turbo code and the one from AC.
Does AC has full turbo simulation or it fakes it as AMS used to do?
Stefano? @Lord Kunos

 

AC uses a code that is way less complex than, for example, netKar PRO. The experience with nkp drove us to this simplification, the added complexity doesn't bring any advantage at all at the end of the day and instead of guessing around some dozen numbers you can work with 2-3 and get to the desired result faster and more reliably. No idea what AMS is doing or was doing before.

 

Thank you.

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AMS ai is getting there, it has gone through lot of changes lately. Now it finally starts to feel nice, they were over aggressive and had pileups in certain tracks not too long ago. Before that reluctant to overtake. Making ai clearly not easy, SMS also struggling. Think the ai was tweaked car per car somehow, which is possible when there is not as many cars as AC. Considering that AC ai is in good place

 

I dont think turbo's are simulated at all (yet) in AMS, as the guy explains in the FTruck video posted yesterday (the first of the 2 videos is posted above.) I imagine the Fiat Uno cup car has a pretty small turbo but I cant wait to see how it changes after the turbo update.

I drove the Formula Truck yesterday and as explained in the video it has instant response at present which is very good fun but probably not accurate for a Truck with a whopping great turbo bolted to it. I imagine it wont be as hilarious to drive afterwards though

 

Automobilista had a 100% pure Rfactor 1 engine. Now, they did some modifications on the engine.

They are improving, but at same time, lately.

 

Here's one of the AI making a nice mistake (and me getting taken out)


I guess this is the old simple method of AI, given time the AC method might prove to be far superior but at the moment the AI in AMS are much better IMO. For balance I should mention that the AI did seem a little unnatural at 120% in the Opala (like more exit speed than I would expect given mine and their lines out of a corner.)

 

Like half the games based on rF1 physics engine...
I am speaking of Raceroom and PC, both are based on heavy modified rFengine...just in case someone missed the reference lol

 

Here comes Nilsˋ second video where he has time to explain the turbo model.

 

Over 100% difficulty AI gets more cornering grip than player. So it's not really "same car" you drive anymore, but basically cheats to give you challenge. Same as in rFactor 2

 

I find the AI need to always be above 100% to give a decent race, they dont seem too bad in most situations just a few cars and mainly exiting corners where they seem to have unnatural drive off the turn. The main place I kept noticing this was out of T3 at Interlagos.

I don't know anything about how AI cars work in RF2, AMS or AC but I had assumed (from stuff I've read here and there) that AMS AI is never really running with the same physics/car as the player. I guess I mostly assumed this because of all the talk of AC doing AI differently and having the same physics as the player rather than simplified but AC AI uses stability control IIRC which is surely more or less the same thing (different physics to player.)

BTW I don't mind at all whether or not the AI is using the same physics as long as the result is good.

 

if I recall corectly AMS had never 100% rF1 engine ... GSC had .. today it is far from rF1 experience ..

- physics rate from 360 to 720 Hz
- inpute refres rate from 120 to 500 Hz
- FFB rate from 90 to 360 Hz (720Hz)
- FFB rate independent from frames
- min. FFB force implementation
- low speed physics FFB impementation and its blending to normal speed physics
- proper pneumatic trail implementation (there is no need for fake frot tyre understeer effects used in rF1) .. change for physics and FFB
- new drivetrain, clutch, etc
- car engine orientation .. engine relative to crankshaft works on real physics
- brand new car engine modeling .. throttle mapping, ECU, new way how torque is generated based on throttle pedal position
- implementation physical suspension model of dedion rear axle
- flat spots, dirt pickup
- implementation of DRS
- dynamicly adjustable ARB implementation
- changes to inertia physics that was bugged in rF code so there is no need to use fudged numbers, you put real numbers you get real results now .
- new Turbo model ..

yep it seems to be impossible to do AI using exactly same physics/rules ... AC is I guess quite close ... it sucks a bit to know they are basicaly cheating but still probably best AI we currently have

 

btw new beauty finaly seen on track

 

Where did you found that screenshot?
I have neither found any information nor any pics so far - except of yours.

 

AMS beta forum and similar stuff

 

That's weird because I should get a message if a new preview screen or video is being posted.
But thank you anyway.