Option to force ABS and TC off permanetly.

I see many times people say brake distance without ABS = shorter but easier to get wheel lock, so thats not true ??
If thats actually true then i guess it make sense to lap faster without ABS if one are good in brake controlling. But i myself always lock the wheel if drive without ABS

 

you can also save lot of tire life with it, especially important in endurance series

 

I've done it plenty of times and failed. ABS has always been slower that's why I turn it off.

Assetto Corsas ABS is a very different case here. We are talking about AC here, not real life.

 

I though AC is trying to simulate real life

 

Haha thats what i wondering too. But this is just a game no matter what so i suggest lets just relax to each other & have fun. I personally dont see the point to argue who actually being "more real" than other while playing this or any other hardcore sim racing game.
I say just do what i like as long as i enjoy the fun, what other people think is not my concern

 

well ABS is about not loosing control , so it will always be slower then no-abs.. however you can steer car while breaking, and this isn't possible without ABS, unless you're very good at breaking

I have to agree though, that it's bit confusing

you turn ABS off in your settings, yet it remains on - could be confusing, if people don't know that game will keep the real life aids on , if that car has those in real life too

 

Failing on ABS part if it's supposed to make you faster

 

The best joke on these forums yet

 

Why does it keep ABS on in the e30 DTM for example?

 

So this ABS or not is something like heel toe shifting if i understand it correctly. Heel toe downshifting always faster than normal downshift but only if the driver do it correctly, if not it actually slower.
So i bet ABS off is faster than ABS on since the brake distance is shorter but driver need to be really good at brake controlling without locking the tire while applying the max working brake pressure, so there's always pros & cons.
Of course i dont know if i right on this one or not, i simply guessing

 

It doesn't, at least that's what I remember.

That was true like 20 years ago where the ABS would just release the brake when the tyres locked up, resulting in longer brake distances. Today ABS are MUCH more advanced, they can adjust each wheel seperatly, the advanced ones at least. And that doesn't only mean lowering the brake force on one wheel, but also raising it on another one if it has enough grip. That's nothing you can do by yourself, as you only have one pedal. Then there are things like changing surface conditions while braking, grip-loss due to overheating tyres and so on. And it can check the wheel sensors hundreds of times per second and adjust the brake pressure. You can't. The only time you might want to turn of the ABS is on loose surfaces and even then it might be desirable to keep it on.

In AC it is a different story, but guess what: You can keep ABS enabled and STILL perform threshold braking. Isn't that wonderful?

 

Of course you can, but you can feel it better when ABS turned off. I don't know how many times I need to remind you, no one here is doubting the real life advanced ABS. The discussion is about Assettos ABS.

 

Very useful information. Thank you very much. Weird there not much come out when i google about ABS brake or ABS pros & cons
So i guess its not necessary to off ABS for topping all those Rivali or RSR time leaderboard, good for me

 

Heel toe isn't faster, it simply stops the car becoming unbalanced from downshifts at high engine revs. Allowing you to rev the engine to match while still on the brakes.

Not sure about the current regulations of GT racing etc, however, auto-blip is available that totally removes the need for heel & toe

 

+1... an option to perminantly disable.

I never drive/race in any car with ABS enabled.
The 1st thing i do is turn it(all) off.

Of 'cos it's just a personal preference, but i much rather learn the breaking point limits of each car and track myself while pushing.
Later and harder braking and also being able to steer the car while on the brakes through turn-in, i find really well done in AC(i'm an h-shifter freak).

Again...
every car is different and the brake point limits with each car/track combo takes time, but i'm way quicker with ABS disabled.

I've a friend who used to be into console racing/driving games and always used a bit of abs and tc.
But when he comes over and AC is running, he is also faster and feels more in control when all aids are off.

He used to joke and still does now and again... "nae point in asking if any aids are on".

I find it rather tedious at the start of each and any session that i have to press Ctrl+A/T and find myself doing it multiple times,
even during race sessions just to make sure that they are, definitely off.
I have these 2 functions mapped to my ButtonBox, but i'd much rather not have to go through what feels like a ritual,
before (and during) each session (just for peace of mind).

 

The whole idea was just to have an option to force all aids disabled, its not like you need to touch that option if you don't want to. Just an option. And seeing how many people actually hotlap @ RSR or rivali i will bet most of them would like to get of the ctrl+a ctrl+t ritual....

Also another question is when we get MP, the leagues i've ran in other sims have had only clutch assist available, no abs or tcs, i'm pretty sure it is a wanted option to decide what aids are available.

 

I must admit i very interest to try that out to disable ABS & TC when i play AC again after i read comment like this

Yeah 100% agree to that. I for one support any feature add into the game as long as people need it & AC has no problem implement it.
I suppose we dont even need to -1 / disagree any thread like this.

 

I agree. Unless you´re BenC, you´re gonna end up locking at least once without ABS in Nordschleife, for example, while ABS will give you consistent results, always.

 

I believe i will lock up in just every corner

 

I don't know what makes you think that locking wheels once in a while makes you kill yourself..