Project CARS 2

@Michael Hornbuckle It was in the excessive demonstration, but I knew someone would go all out to say that's wrong.

Plow mean in automotive movement "move in a fast and uncontrolled manner", Straight mean "extending or moving uniformly in one direction only; without a curve or bend."

Type of uncontrolled manner-> Oversteer mean "handling of an automotive vehicle that causes turns that are sharper than the driver intends because the rear wheels slide to the outside of the turn before the front wheels lose traction. verb (used without object)"

 

I still don't get it, surely plow straight is to under steer ie not turn?

 

Don't worry I don't think anyone 'gets him'

 

Me either.

But, on the subject of PCars2, I read an article on the Nordschleife and how it's just a vicious stretch of road and got the bug to drive it. It's one of my favorite tracks. I booted it up in AC, and the difference between PCars2 and AC was night and day. Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy PCars2, and I'm not saying it's garbage. But the level of focus required to turn a decent lap in AC is much higher than it is in PCars2. In PCar2, the car just simply has too much grip, and on a track like that--with myriad bumps, undulations, and surface changes--it should never feel like a breeze. Racing the Nords in PCars2, I feel like I'm only competing against the other cars. But in AC, I feel like I'm competing against the track itself, as well as the other cars. That's how the Nords should be.

That said, it's nice to race the Nords in a late afternoon to night race, or in a thunderstorm. That's extremely fun. But for a serious race or run, AC definitely presents more of a challenge.

 

....so, Project Cars 2....:

Practice, Bathurst, V8, Authentic settings.....vroom vroom.

Trying to get lap times down...as you do.

There's a pedantic **** called a race director who seems hell bent on ruining every single session.

On my out lap, penultimate corner, overcook it slightly, spin out and slam my arse into the barriers.

Race Director says, "this and your next lap are invalidated"...

I gained no advantage, the lap was irrelevant as it was my out lap, I'm at a standstill, still on the penultimate corner, I tiptoe over the grass back on to the black stuff and resume driving, after the first corner of the next lap the ***-hole rubs it in again reminding me that this and the next lap are pointless.

....why ?

 

Are you a child? If you aren't? Stop acting like one.

 

I know what you mean. Have you tried the T70 Lola or F1 Spark in rF2 especially the nonlaser scanned one of the Nordschleife?

 

What interests me is, how would you compare the two tracks in terms of precision/craftsmanship? AFAIK both are scanned, so they should be completely equal, but I read more than once that the pC2 Nords differs slightly in some places? Was there anything to that effect that you noticed?

 

Mr. Deep! What did you do? I thought I was the only one who got in trouble?

 

I think he is talking more about the handling differences rather than the track.

 

You're quite the observer I must say. I'm still interested if he noticed any differences in the two tracks, that's why I was asking specifically for that

 

That's a tough one. There do seem to be some difference, but, IMO, it's hard to tell whether they are perspective related (resulting from FOV differences) or actual variances in layout. The differences seem particularly noticeable in corners/complexes with steep elevation changes, whether you're approaching on an incline or decline, the track often seems narrower in PCars. That said, there are also times when the track in PCars seems like a super tight fit for two cars, but yet I end up running wheel-to-wheel through it with no problem. That's one of the things that makes me think it might just be perspective.

I'm sure someone could do a more critical comparative analysis of the tracks, but I don't really care to drill into it like that. If there are physical differences, they seem minute and almost irrelevant.

 

No. I only got to try one car. But now I'm pretty curious to know whether it's limited to a few cars, or if it's a physics thing across the whole game. From your comment, it sounds like it's not just limited to one or two cars. I'm going to try a few more of my favorites this week.

 

If you do, get really for a work out. It might be a little on the slick side but when taking into account the old bias ply tires.... I like the scanned AC rip better. I find the (fall) mod Nordschleife has the corners too sharp. I can't stay with AI's without turning them under 100%. I have so much fun I don't care.

Let me know how you make out!!

P.S. I know there use to be a ripped (fall) Nordschleife out there before the laser scanned AC Nordschleife.

 

I am curious as to which cars you have compared. In my experience some are easier in PC2 and some are harder. Also PC2 has some strange tyre options e.g the Lotus 49 has some super grippy, super forgiving "track" tyres (which it defaults to) but also some much less grippy much less forgiving "vintage" tyres.

 

I don't like the vintage cars in PC2 or AC after driving them in rF2.

 

Which vintage formula cars are comparable between rf2 and AC? Between pc2 and AC there's the lotus 49 and the lotus 25 I think.

 

I mainly race modern classes--GT#, LMP#, and a variety of Formula types. So, for the most part, I'm just choosing between Softs, Mediums, and Hard. I've raced a few of the Lotus Classics in AC, and like them, but I don't spend enough time in them to compare. In fact, I don't think I've tried any of their counterparts in PCars more than one or twice.

 

PC2 has all 4 Classic Lotus that AC has. 25, 49, 72D, and 98T.

rF2 doesnt have any exact models, but they have the old Brabham BT20 from the 60's. The Spark F1/2/3 cars are fictional. As well as the Eve F1/2/3 cars being fictional.

 

AC Cobra is one direct comparison. I think we need to stop thinking of which sim is the best and start to categorize instead. rF2 is more loose while AC and PC2 have more grip although there was a real race car driver complaining about rF2's slow speed traction.