Talk about that AI

The AI overtaking issue is the one thing keeping this title from being perfect imo.
Such a shame we can't run multiple classes offline.
Glad it's being worked on.

 

sometimes I think there is maybe too little "thought exchange" between two AI cars. The higher the difference in performance between two cars, the higher the "willingness" of the lower powered car to make room should be. It does work like this in LFS, a slow car (or in general teh car being overtaken) will try to make some room in corners. I mean if I were driving a Fiat 500 around the Ring, and had a 650S GT3 fly up in my rear view mirror, I WOULD make some room

This ofc opens up all sorts of new problems, with you now having both participants of the manoeuvre away from the ideal line Maybe it needs more "cheating", more usage of things real life does not offer. Compare the sector times of cars, and up the willingness to make room of those at the bottom of the list. More "hand of god" handling of cars to conserve CPU time. A data pool for track elements like Eau Rogue or that wall at BCC, if a car crashes it sets a "flag" for all other AI to use, "warning, crashed here, substract 0.3m from left track limit" and so on.

Its an interesting topic to brainstorm about.

 

if this game had ai like rfactor(i.e. less cpu intensive and fun to race against) it would be the best game ever

instead of having an on rails ai percentage number for difficulty look at the parameters rfactor has

Nationality = Brasil
DateofBirth = 25-4-1981
Starts = 203
Poles = 16
Wins = 11
DriversChampionships = 0
Aggression = 100.0
Composure = 80.0
Speed = 80.0
QualifySpeed = 80.0
WetSpeed = 80.0
StartSkill = 100.0
Crash = 0.0
Recovery = 100.0
CompletedLaps = 100.0
MinRacingSkill = 90.0

 

Continuing on my theme of flagging tracks that the AI works well on...

Driving road cars the AI works well at Vallelunga, maybe that's to be expected though...

I've passed and been re-passed by them, 2-3 times in a lap. Clean driving, no ramming, side by side door handling but that's OK and what we want to see imo in cars with a rof imo. The multi class thing is still there although maybe not as bad as at other tracks, so pick cars with similar performance.

 

Is there a possibility for the AI to copy/mimic/build on, or load from your PB, ghosts etc.

I understand that this sounds pretty simple in theory, but i couldn't possibly imagine what it would take to impliment in a code sense.
Or if that would even be possible right now.

I appologise if this or similar ideas/questions have been asked and already answered, as i'm just thinking aloud.

 

everything is possible. .it's just a matter of time and thus, money

 

Cant you just advertise some DLC for AC3?

 

If you race AI using default setup its can be competitive depending on the track.

Some tracks probably need new AI lines, like the Spa line by Liski fixes lifting at Eau Rouge by AI.


I am looking forward to new AI improvements.

 

The only thing i look forward to seeing when i go into steam is: "new dlc for AC".
Everything else is just... pointless.

 

Speaking of AI update, I probably mentioned this before but I'd like to note that the option to lock the AI into using all the per ai_setup defined setup options (namely turbo %, tyres and fuel that they set no matter what you set) would be really appreciated. It'd be one step towards more player control over "BoP" for balancing the AI field as well as AI strategies.

Eventually things like 'allowed/allocated tyres for session' and other such settings in the UI when creating a session would be great to see of course.


I also have a question about which session/track conditions are needed for AI to switch themselves to hard/super hard slicks. I don't recall having the AI ever choose something else than softest in qualifying and medium (or I suppose what is presumably the default compound) in the race - regardless of temperatures etc. Maybe I just didn't look properly, would be nice to know for sure though.

 

For me AI is so important that I would even buy a "Better AI DLC" !!!

 

I like the direction Lord Kunos is taking with the AI as described in the other AI thread. It's a harder thing to achieve but it sounds like real artificial driving intelligence. The AI is not just following scripts but is driving intelligently and reacting to the sim in a similar manner to real drivers. This means long term the AI in AC could be a real selling point of the product.

I suppose one of the problem may be that the AI becomes too processor heavy the better they get but maybe that's something that could end up going server side in the future and you could pick AI personalities. At the moment as far as I can tell the AI doesn't have learning capacity, they can't have more or less experience because they all sort of clones of each other.

But I'm really excited about the possibilities of AC AI.

 

That's the next DLC we're getting. It just happens to come with some cool new cars.

I loaded up a Nord Endurance trackday last night, with the 60 car mod. Oh, you should've seen the train that formed after a few laps.

Hope the update is a little better.

 

i have to agree. the AI in AC is utterly frustrating. while we are on the subject: no damage modeling, no weather effects, absurd interface, and oh yea, it just happens to be the GREATEST RACING SIM FOR THE PC ON PLANET EARTH!!! there's irony for you.

 

So I guess according to your criteria Forza Horizon 3 is the best sim available. That's fine though, actual sims aren't for everybody, have fun with your drivatards.

 

Haha then you should really ask yourself why there's so many people playing it. I think that while you are correct about what AC does not have, it does have one fundamental thing: it drives so well. For a sim about cars, that's not a small feat. Plus, it's open to modders. Plus, it's got some of the most famous cars and tracks in it and they're simulated well. So, until a new sim comes on the market that has all that plus the features you want, well Assetto Corsa will stay one of the best out there. Here, the numbers from Steam (of course that's PC version):

 

its because they probably all race online dude...oh and there are enough sims out there which fullfill your demands so there is no need to glue to AC forever.

 

Nice 1...

 

Can someone point me to the other thread please? cheers