The Lap Time Comparison Thread (cars up to 1999)

A list of lap times from Assetto Corsa and real life. Please correct and add any information you can find for cars created before 2000 that feature in Assetto Corsa.

*car* = real car may be a different version to the one in game.

Green = RSR lap time is atleast 1 second faster than real life.
Red = RSR lap time is atleast 1 second slower than real life.
Blue = RSR lap time is within 1 second of real life.

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Monza Full Course 1954-1969

RL *Maserati 250F*
Year: 1955
Driver(s): Jean Behra
Conditions: Unknown
Lap Time: 2:50.1

AC Maserati 250F 6C
Track: Monza Full Course
RSR#1 Lap Time: 2:47.8

RL *Autodelta S.p.A. Alfa Romeo 1600 GTA*
Year: 1966
Driver(s): Roberto Bussinello
Conditions: Unknown
Lap Time: 3:07.4

AC Alfa Romeo GTA
Track: Monza Full Course
RSR#1 Lap Time: 3:06.1

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Monza Road Course 1954-1972

RL Ferrari 250GTO
Year: 1962
Driver(s): Edoardo Lualdi
Conditions: Unknown
Lap Time: 1:42.9

AC Ferrari 250GTO
Track: Monza Road Course
RSR#1 Lap Time: 1:47.9

RL Lotus 25
Year: 1963
Driver(s): Jim Clark
Conditions: Dry
Lap Time: 1:38.9

AC Lotus 25
Track: Monza Road Course
RSR#1 Lap Time: 1:44.7

RL Ferrari 312
Year: 1967
Driver(s): Chris Amon
Conditions: Dry or damp (not sure.)
Lap Time: 1:29.3

AC Ferrari 312/67
Track: Monza Road Course
RSR#1 Lap Time: 1:27.8

RL *Lotus 49*
Year: 1967
Driver(s): Jim Clark
Conditions: Dry
Lap Time: 1:28.5

AC Lotus 49
Track: Monza Road Course
RSR#1 Lap Time: 1:26.2

RL *Alfa Romeo GTA*
Year: 1970
Driver(s): Rossi / Monti
Conditions: Warm Cloudy
Lap Time: 1:55.4

AC Alfa Romeo GTA
Track: Monza Road Course
RSR#1 Lap Time: 1:54.1

RL *Porsche 917K*
Year: 1970
Driver(s): Elford / Ahrens, Jr.
Conditions: Warm Cloudy
Lap Time: 1:24.8

RL *Porsche 917K*
Year: 1971
Driver(s): Rodriguez / Oliver
Conditions: Warm Dry
Lap Time: 1:24.0

AC Porsche 917K
Track: Monza Road Course
RSR#1 Lap Time: 1:25.9

RL *Ford Escort RS1600*
Year: 1971
Driver(s): Mass / Fitzpatrick
Conditions: Unknown
Lap Time: 1:46.2

AC Ford Escort RS1600
Track: Monza Road Course
RSR#1 Lap Time: 1:46.1

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Mugello 1974-present

RL *Porsche 935/78-81*
Year: 1982
Driver(s): Moretti / Baldi
Conditions: Warm Dry
Lap Time: 1:55.3

AC Porsche 935/78
Track: Mugello
RSR#1 Lap Time: 1:54.0

RL *Porsche 962C*
Year: 1985
Driver(s): Bell / Stuck
Conditions: Cloudy
Lap Time: 1:40.7

AC Porsche 962C Short Tail
Track: Mugello
RSR#1 Lap Time: 1:42.0

AC Porsche 962C Long Tail
Track: Mugello
RSR#1 Lap Time: 1:44.4

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Silverstone 1949-1974

RL *Maserati 250F*
Year: 1954
Driver(s): Stirling Moss
Conditions: Likely poor conditions
Lap Time: 1:47

RL *Maserati 250F*
Year: 1955
Driver(s): Roy Salvadori
Conditions: Unknown
Lap Time: 1:48

RL *Maserati 250F*
Year: 1956
Driver(s): Stirling Moss
Conditions: Dry
Lap Time: 1:41

AC Maserati 250F 6C
Track: Silverstone 1967
RSR#1 Lap Time: 1:45.6

RL Ferrari 250GTO
Year: 1963
Driver(s): Jack Sears
Conditions: Unknown
Lap Time: 1:43.2

AC Ferrari 250GTO
Track: Silverstone 1967
RSR#1 Lap Time: 1:43.9

RL Lotus 25
Year: 1963
Driver(s): Jim Clark
Conditions: Dry
Lap Time: 1:34.4

AC Lotus 25
Track: Silverstone 1967
RSR#1 Lap Time: 1:42.0

RL Ferrari 312
Year: 1967
Driver(s): Chris Amon
Conditions: Overcast
Lap Time: 1:26.9

AC Ferrari 312/67
Track: Silverstone 1967
RSR#1 Lap Time: 1:26.1

RL *Lotus 49*
Year: 1967
Driver(s): Jim Clark
Conditions: Dry
Lap Time: 1:25.3

AC Lotus 49
Track: Silverstone 1967
RSR#1 Lap Time: 1:24.7

RL *Ford GT40*
Year: 1967
Driver(s): Paul Hawkins
Conditions: Dry (damp patch at Becketts)
Lap Time: 1:36.4

RL *Ford GT40*
Year: 1967 (International Trophy)
Driver(s): Denny Hulme
Conditions: Unknown
Lap Time: 1:35.6

RL *Ford GT40*
Year: 1967 (Wills Trophy)
Driver(s): Paul Hawkins
Conditions: Unknown
Lap Time: 1:35.0

AC Ford GT40
Track: Silverstone 1967
RSR#1 Lap Time: 1:33.2

RL *Lotus 72(C/D)*
Year: 1971
Driver(s): Emerson Fittipaldi
Conditions: Dry
Lap Time: 1:18.3

RL Lotus 72D
Year: 1972
Driver(s): Emerson Fittipaldi
Conditions: Unknown
Lap Time: 1:18.1

AC Lotus 72D
Track: Silverstone 1967
RSR#1 Lap Time: 1:20.5

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Vallelunga 1971-2004
Resurfaced

RL *Lotus 72(D)*
Year: 1972
Driver(s): Emerson Fittipaldi
Conditions: Unknown
Lap Time: 1:09.8

AC Lotus 72D
Track: Vallelunga Classic
RSR#1 Lap Time: 1:10.7

RL *Ford Escort RS1600*
Year: 1974
Driver(s): Kautz / Krebs / Heyer
Conditions: Hot Sunny
Lap Time: 1:22.8

AC Ford Escort RS1600
Track: Vallelunga Classic
RSR#1 Lap Time: 1:26.4

RL *Porsche 935/78*
Year: 1978
Driver(s): Ickx / Schurti
Conditions: Warm Dry
Lap Time: 1:12.8

AC Porsche 935/78
Track: Vallelunga Classic
Lap Time: 1:12.7

RL *BMW M3 Group A*
Year: 1988
Driver(s): Strycek / Ravaglia / Pirro
Conditions: Unknown
Lap Time: 1:20.0

AC BMW M3 Group A
Track: Vallelunga Classic
RSR#1 Lap Time: 1:20.8

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Mods (RSR times not updated)
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Bridgehampton 1957-1997

RL *Porsche 718RS 61*
Year: 1962
Driver(s): Bob Donner
Conditions: Unknown
Lap Time: 1:54.8

RL *Porsche 718RS 60*
Year: 1963
Driver(s): Sesslar / Cassel
Conditions: Cold Cloudy Dry
Lap Time: 1:51.0

AC Porsche 718 RS 60 Spyder
Track: Bridgehampton (old build)
RSR#1 Lap Time: 1:52.7

RL *Ford GT40*
Year: 1965
Driver(s): Skip Scott
Conditions: Cool Overcast
Lap Time: 1:46.2

AC Ford GT40
Track: Bridgehampton (old build)
RSR#1 Lap Time: 1:41.1

RL Lola T70 Mk2 Chevrolet
Year: 1967
Driver(s): George Follmer
Conditions:Unknown
Lap Time: 1:31.1

RL Ferrari 330 P4
Year: 1968
Driver(s): Pedro Rodriguez
Conditions: Unknown
Lap Time: 1:32.1

AC Ferrari 330 P4
Track: Bridgehampton
RSR#1 Lap Time: 1:36.2

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Donington Circuit GP Layout
Curbs may differ to AC version, possibly other changes

RL *BMW M3 E30 Group A*
Year: 1988
Driver(s): Ravaglia / van de Poele
Conditions: Unknown
Lap Time: 1:42.4

RL * McLaren F1 GTR*
Year: 1995
Driver(s): Nielsen / Bscher
Conditions: Cold Cloudy Dry
Lap Time: 1:31.6

RL *Porsche 911 GT1-98*
Year: 1998
Driver(s): McNish / Dalmas
Conditions: Overcast Brief Rain
Lap Time: 1:24.0

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Goodwood (3.8km) 1952-Present

RL Lola T70 Mk2 Chevrolet
Year: 2015
Driver(s): Nick Padmore
Conditions: Unknown
Lap Time: 1:18.2

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Riverside International Raceway (5.3km) 1969-1989

RL *Alfa Romeo GTA*
Year: 1969
Driver(s): V Provenzano
Conditions: Unknown
Lap Time: 1:40.5

AC Alfa Romeo GTA
Track: RIR Short Layout
MP Time (94%grip): 1:39.7

RL Lola T70 Mk2 Chevrolet
Year: 1969
Driver(s): Jack Millikan
Conditions: Unknown
Lap Time: 1:54.3

RL *Porsche 935/78-81*
Year: 1983
Driver(s): Bell / Stommelen
Conditions: Unknown
Lap Time: 1:36.9

AC Porsche 935/78
Track: RIR Long Layout
RSR#1 Lap Time: 1:42.8
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Riverside International Raceway Short Layout

RL *Porsche 917/30 TC*
Year: 1973
Driver(s): Mark Donohue
Conditions: Unknown
Lap Time: 1:10.2

AC Porsche 917/30
Track: RIR Short Layout
RSR#1 Lap Time: 1:09.2
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Silverstone 1967

RL Lola T70 Mk2 Chevrolet
Year: 1966
Driver(s): Denny Hulme
Conditions:Unknown
Lap Time: 1:27.6

RL Jaguar XJ13
Year: 1967
Driver(s): D. Hobbs
Conditions: Dry (damp patch at Becketts)
Lap Time: 1:35.7

AC Jaguar XJ13
Track: Silverstone 1967
RSR#1 Lap Time: 1:34.3

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Thruxton 1968-Present?

RL *Porsche 917K*
Year: 1971
Driver(s): Jürgen Neuhaus
Conditions: Unknown
Lap Time: 1:16.2

RL *Porsche 962C*
Year: 1986
Driver(s): Jo Gartner
Conditions: Sunny Cold
Lap Time: 1:13.0

RL *McLaren F1 GTR*
Year: 1996
Driver(s): Ian Flux
Conditions: Unknown
Lap Time: 1:18.2

AC McLaren F1 GTR
Track: Thruxton
RSR#1 Lap Time: 1:16.2

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Virginia International Raceway 1957-Present
Widened and resurfaced over the years

RL *Alfa Romeo GTA*
Year: 1966
Driver(s): Van der Vate
Conditions: Unknown
Lap Time: 2:30.7

AC Alfa Romeo GTA
Track: VIR Full Course
RSR#1 Lap Time: 2:28.5

 

I couldn't tolerate the wildly inaccurate thread title in the other thread any longer

 

Well.... this will keep us really busy

Anyone who are saying that 917/30 is easy should try to catch Donohue... Best I could do at RIR short was 1'17. I know there are guys who are 3-5 seconds faster than me. It still doesn't get down to 1'11.

 

I know what I am doing tonight!

Taking that Carrera RSR on Mugello and try to match that 2:04.8

Thanks Andy

 

Do you guys use the heel and toe technique? I am a very poor driver, and my G27 pedals don't help either.

 

I do, its worth learning to do it. It might make you slower at first but in the end it will give you more control.

 

@Emerson Every time, even when it is probably unnecessary. But heel and toe is not everything, being able to actually rev match precisely by this technique is the real deal. It is complete mystery to me how to do properly, with Lotus 25 for example, I've been told to be soft and gentle.

Lol I even use left foot braking, even though it is completely wrong most of the time hahaha It is more rallying technique, If I'm right.

How you will pick best AC times @andy-riches by ALOOG and RSR best laps ?

Spoiler: IDEA

By the way, I wonder if it would be good idea to get every track into a spoiler, could be comfortable, and OP is going to spread quite a bit, I think

 

I have a long way ahead to learn how to do it properly. But the Carrera deserves it

 

RSR best laps (excluding wall riders at Monza) and when cars are new i will wait a few days mostly till it settles. even the mod combos i can see RSR best lap ingame/on track

 

The 1997 F1 GTR was the longtail.

 

@andy-riches , are the lap times at RSR reset after big changes, like the new tyre model?

 

thanks good info do you know when the short tail was used?

yes RSR is wiped every now and then with big changes in AC. there is currently only 1 car in that list that is pretty much confirmed to be the correct car and that is the 1963 Lotus 25. All the others marked with ** should be taken as a rough guide until confirmed or proved to be too different to the model in game

 

for mod lap times if anyone spots a note worthy RSR WR (or sets one) can they post the time or let me know which car and track.

 

if Silverstone definitely didnt change between 1949 and 1974 the Lotus 25 looks even worse off here vs RL than it did at Monza. there is a couple of seconds left to gain in AC im sure but i would be very surprised if anyone can get within 7 seconds of the real life time. seems like it might be the tyres that are the problem.

 

I can begin with mods

Silverstone 1967

RL*Jaguar XJ13
Year: 1967
Driver(s): D.Hobbs
Conditions: Dry, damp patch at Becketts, 18degreesC
Lap Time: 1:35'7
And they were pretty much certain that it could have been ~2-4s quicker, because thye had some issues while testing.

Best I can do is 1'36'5 with "fast" track.

The document I have, also suggests that best time of GT40 was 1'35 straight by P.Hawkins. It was in 1967

 

You didnt mention the car but i know what it is I will add the GT40 and XJ13 times to the list

i've used the gt40 time listed here http://www.racingsportscars.com/race/Silverstone-1967-05-20-5418.html

 

Note that the GT40 in AC is a '68 "quasi-Mk1" build, but the Silverstone time may have been a Mk1 or a Mk2 (big block) and in any event the car would've been a bit heavier than what we have in AC as ours is lighter than typical. So carry a certain margin for error with that time... I'll have to check our reference book again to see if there are more details on that lap. (There's a whole chapter on the GT40 in the XJ book...)

The XJ13 at the time was running with brake issues which turned out to be an incorrect hydraulic cylinder. And not only an incorrect part, but when it was taken off and torn down they found swarf (metal shavings from the milling process) in one of the valves, compromising it. So the brakes were basically hosed. And the tires would've been the narrower, older Dunlops and not the set which is on the car in AC. I'd expect guys at the sharp end of league grids to see 1:32-ish in AC, @18C and 97-98% grip?

Also note that the default setup we've modeled in AC is the one from the Silverstone test sheets, so it should be pretty well tuned for that particular track thanks to Mr. Hobbs and co.

 

^ where's the "love" button great info, thanks

 

my best so far at 100% grip is a 1:34.310 (not flat shifting.) there is definitely time left but i would be surprised to see people running 32's at 98% grip!

best so far.

 

Ok, maybe that was a bit optimistic...

(Although you're only 1.5sec off, really, track grip notwithstanding.)

There were 2 drivers present on that day, Hobbs and Richard Attwood. Hobbs, who had driven the car previously, did the 1:35.7. Attwood, who hadn't, did a 1:38.1. Attwood was no slouch behind the wheel, I think that Hobbs time is ... alienesque?

In which case the 33-35sec range actually feels about right. 1:32 may be a proper alien time.