V1.3.4. tyre model fine tuning on gt cars and more.

I don't think the tech existed to produce a soft durable tyre till the early 70s. Tread improves mechanical grip if your tyres are like blocks of marble...

 

Choose one, you can't have both

 

Flint has a much higher value on Mohs scale.

Geology GCSE 20 years ago...

 

Thanks a lot for the update on the tyre model...on very first impressions is a super improvement in the gt cars behaviour and i loved it!!...the only thing that still don't convince me (in my opinion) is that all the cars (not only the gts) feel generally way too easy to recover when loosing grip...countersteering in real life seems to me a lot more of a tricky job (i drive a 300zx). anyway this is the right way i look forward for the next update in physics department!

 

Get a 24nm servo wheel and try to save by countersteering then come here and tell me it is too easy

 

I think it's probably a bit too easy at high speed (some cars worse than others), lower speeds are fine tho, it's not that hard to save slides going 120kph in real life... That doesn't mean that you should go try !

 

It's very easy to counter steer in my RL bmw, not much force required

 

Its not so easy on my real life bmw e30 m3 DTM

 

LOL...thats what I said...it's fine at low speeds but at high speeds seems like the car is too much "under control" (obviously imho)

 

In the attempt to balance the GT3 cars, I feel something has gone amiss. The Z4 GT3 is way faster for example at spa than the merc or nissan even at default setup over 1 second per lap. Way more grip apparent straight away even at rear wing 5 versus rear wing 8 for the merc, with a higher top speed too.
It's almost like it feels it hasn't had the same 1.3.4 updates applied in the balancing. The nissan and merc feel similar laptime wise. Z4 way off.

I just gave those 3 cars a quick default setup hotlap with tyre warmers on around spa. Had to change the default setup on the merc as it was a spinning top otherwise.

Any confirmation?

 

This is music to my ears! More real world data! Data rules!

 

The bop is done with custom setups for max performance. Dont compare the cars on default setup. In fact the z4 is max 2 tenths faster on spa than the sls. Wing 5 and 8 is way way too much because u can use 1 for both cars.

 

I just did a quick one with the mclaren too.
The mclaren and merc have same lap time on a quick outing with rear wings at 2. The Z4 still 1 second faster and displays way more grip than the others regardless of setup. You can feel it before you have turned even one corner.

So surely then if rear wings at 1 shows that something is wrong in the aero data, as using monza type wings at spa is silly and shouldn't be the fastest way around.

Eau rouge was easy flat out with rear wing at 2 in the mclaren and z4 but not the sls, all done with slightly cold tyres.
Like for like track conditions, back to back.

 

Great to hear tyres are constantly being improved for added realism.
If Aris and team could fix the E30's tyres before my next league round that would be great
We also found a set of softs would now last for a 30minute race ,being driven hard, since 1.3, not sure that should be possible without a big drop off after 15-20 mins?

 

Like I said the bop is done with custom setups. U cant just lower the wing to 1 without adjusting the setup to work with it. The z4 is 1 sec faster for u.

At spa these are the fastest aero settings which I use for most tracks;

Sls: 1-1
Mcl: 0-1
Nismo: 0
Z4: 1-1
Audi: 1-0
Scg: 2-2 and 0-0
Lambo: 1-2

If u are able to push the cars to the limit then u will find out that the z4 is not even close to being 1 sec faster. The z4 has much better default setup than the other cars. And btw who said using 1-1 is unrealistic? These are just position clicks and nothing more. Real team use very low wings and audi team never uses higher than 0 at the rear which is still very high.

A BOP for default setups will come but at a later stage. Improving the default setups to make the cars closer to each other.

 

Is it possible for me to change default setups so the AI uses them ?

 

What is BoP?

 

Balance of Performance

 

Not that core temps are more stable there is no way to tell in telemetry what the surface is doing. In my opinion, the inner, middle and outer tire temps should be available in the telemetry (ACTI) so that we know what the rest of the tire is doing in the turns. In the screen shot below, are two laps, same track, similar setup, on the temp graph the white temp lines are the new core temps, the colored ones are the ones in previous versions. There is no way to tell if the tire is overheating somewhere even part of the lap since the core does not move so much any more. I cant look at the supension app when I am on the limit, I am not that good

 

After trying the GTs I must say that I have really enjoyed their tires, it is very noticeable when they are cold and feel unstable as the turns takes grip. Kunos congratulate for their hard work, hope that we update every car. I think it's a big step.

Are the cars lotus (GTC and GTX) have not been updated their tires? These feel horrible, too grip, impossible to lose adhesion. No need to dispense gas.

Improvements in GT2 and GT3 cars are awesome, I hope we will see updated every tire of the game.

Thanks kunos.