Zandvoort not laserscanned rumor(?)

Maybe it's the flow of the track indeed, can't really put a finger why. Some numb bumpy feedback like there's something wrong with my wheel. Not like because of the bumps but some kind of numbness all around, pretty much reminiscent of a poor converted track.

 

Sounds familiar. Some way I feel the same. Not saying that it's wrong but for me there's just something strange on bumps at Zandbvoort which makes cars feel a bit funny at times.

 

I wasn't at all familiar with Zandvoort (either in a sim or in reality) until a few weeks ago. After familiarising myself with the course (which I like, a lot) it felt like I was driving an historic track because of the unrelenting bumpiness. Having since checked out footage of recent DTM races I feel a bit confused as to why a relatively smooth-looking modern track feels so consistently harsh. You can see from the onboard DTM footage that the main straight is very bumpy, but it's not particularly apparent anywhere else.

With Donington I was constantly told the surface needed 'moar bumps', but I was adamant that I wouldn't simply add lots of random 'noise' for the sake of it without having the necessarily detailed reference (I also felt somewhat vindicated by people who'd driven the real thing and described the surface as smooth). As far as I'm aware there's no way you can accurately capture the subtleties required for depicting bumpiness without laser scanning, which makes me wonder what Zandvoort's was actually based on.

 

You get this constant back and forth between people over how bumpy a track actually is. I think why there is some confusion is that race drivers moan a lot when a track is bumpy, why? Because they are driving very fast with cars with much stiffer suspension. Then you get guys going round in road cars, much much slower with much softer suspension - who usually say the bumps aren't that bad. This for me is the reason why. Racing drivers say the track is very bumpy, road drivers say its less so.

 

Racing drivers should have fatter arses. I bet Nigel Mansell never complained about bumps after he came back from America.

 

I tried Project Cars again last night. Hadn't been in the game since I bought it upon release. It looks so beautiful but feels so empty. The force feedback has really improved. But there is zero feedback from the track. I need to feel the bumps and imperfections like I do at Imola in Assetto Corsa. It would be nice if Zandvoort had more of that as well.

 

so Looks pretty bumpy to me

 

hope they learned not to do this again after the uproar it caused

 

I hope they do it again and don't listen to the noise of the few who complain about everything and anything. We will take more track like Zanvoort any time.
Those who can only drive on laser can track have just not to use them.

 

What gets me about this entire thing is if this was a mod track the entire community would embrace it with open arms. On top of that many would say it should be official content.

The track is very well done and it was FREE. Treat it as someone from the community created it because it is exactly that.

 

Its still official content though which goes away from the other laserscanned tracks in the game.

 

So?

 

"What gets me about this entire thing is if this was a mod track the entire community would embrace it with open arms. On top of that many would say it should be official content."

 

This was not the reason i bit*h about it, i tweeted Kunos to include Paul Ricard as official content. Not being laser scanned has nothing to do with that wierd feeling i have with it

 

Looks like he had AI turned down to 85%

 

@Boris Lozac I'm only replying to your initial request wrt "Zandvoort vs. other tracks" and not joining a LS vs- non-LS discussion

I personally love the track...one of the most enjoyable and technically demanding ones due to limited corner visibility and "interesting" camber situations. The FFB varies from car to car, like IRL. I was racing the Lotus Exige Scura there and got feedback from the whole car and the track. When I raced in the BMW M4 Akrapovic the FFB was a bit baffled...softer suspension and light rear so I felt the steering, mainly. Both cases made sense to me and it doesn't feel simcade, at all...whatever that even means ;-)

 

I love the track. To me its one of the tracks I always come back to. I think I only drove more hours on Spa.
I am very thankful it got included.

 

I really hope they do it again. The Kunos version of Zandvoort is an excellent track, and if it means that we get more quality tracks in a shorter time frame, then I am keen to see it!

 

I think the track itself is great, there are a couple of areas where it looks slightly off, but for the most part I was really surprised at how good it was.

Personally, I still stand by my view that I would rather have it be scanned and yes I'd have gladly paid for it.

 

Don't know if it's been mentioned before on this thread, but look at the windows in the pit stall doors, it has the creators name on them