Assetto Corsa Competizione - Generic discussion

I would say that it is a little like the amplifier of the guitar stephano, in another register._

 

They swapped the values for final release. FEI 000 is now FEI 100 and the default for CSW V2.5 as its undampended, unsoftended, most direct and precise FFB possible. With anything below FEI 100 you get dampened and softened FFB so you will lose detail in the FFB but you get quieter FFB which is useful for csl elite base

 

For me the jaguar is much better in terms of FFB, am on csl elite as well. It doesn't have that constant strong force in corners that drowns out anything else for some reason that most of the other cars have. I also followed Aris advice and turned road noise down a bit and damping as well.

The rest of the main CSL settings at default, FEI=40, strength 60% or so.

 

With Gain 100 you get signal Clipping on a CSW v2. Should be reduced to Gain 75-80 I think to avoid Clipping. FF in the Tuning menu should always be left at 100 anyway.

 

thx for your reply!!
i set gain down to 80%, because at gain of 100% the ffb in the app shows a lot of red. is this just a bug and can we this display dörfer? or why you set it to 100%?

 

I can't even....

 

we've talked about this many times in the past. There's nothing wrong with the FF bar "kissing" the red in highspeed curb situations.

Look... I pretty much invented the concept of "clipping" and FF bars in racing games, before netKar nobody even knew what I was talking about.
Sadly, people have turned what it is a very useful information into a dogma "thou shall not clip" which it simply wrong.

@Aristotelis sets up the FF gain as it should be. The best advice I can give to all of you is leave things as default and get driving. If the FF is too high, lower it either from the game or from the wheel panel, if the FF is too low, buy a more powerful wheel.

That's really all there should be to it.

 

Fei is only there if you are afraid that clanking noises in the wheel will destroy it. If you put it at anything less than 100 on csl elite or csw 2.5, you will get a filtered signal. I would suggest to have less gain in game but leave fei at 100, because you loose the immediacy of force feedback.

 

clean

 

ok, thats cool and i try it @ 100%. thanks again for your description :-D

 

I can see why HW manufacturers want to give the opportunity to soften the spikes. With DD wheels some titles can be extremely uncomfy with huge wrist ripping load spikes. I could see myself using such feature with high downforce openwheelers in AC, just to give you an example.

Many different titles have some spiking issues and filtering can't solve it.

 

I disagree here, because there is a case where it can make sense. My G27 has a very aggressive rattling when I go over curbs. This is fine for the most part, but it can get loud. If I play late in the evening and I would have a thin wall, it could disturb roommates or neighbours. Even in my case it sometimes disturbs just myself. It does not enhance my experience or information much when the wheel rattles full power like mad. Thankfully ACC ships with the dynamic dampening option which mitigates this mostly. But not all games and hardware are as good as they could or should be and a thoughtful driver software can help.
It also should not bother you as a developer at all, because the default value stays the same as it was before. The chance of user error happening increases though, when they modify values without reading a manual and then come and complain to you though. Stupid people will find other ways to be stupid anyways, so I would say this is negligible.

 

trust me it bothers me A LOT. The result is an endless flow of people claiming the most absurd stuff about FF and when they have 10 random numbers put in the driver it makes trying to understand what's going on VERY difficult, borderline impossible.

If noise was a problem the software solution is super simple in the form of filters and whatnot but the only result these kind of drivers have is to remove control from the devs and move it to a black box nobody understands: everybody loose.

 

I agree 100% with you Sir...: too many variables.
But there are many Fanatec CSW 2/2.5 etc.... owners, and so I kindly ask you to investigate about latest Fanatec Driver behaviour and suggest them [ehm.... us ...CSW 2.5 is wonderful....] - the way to go.
Thank you very much !!!!

 

So, you buy a wheel which is a complicated to set it up and you ask the solution architect of this videogame to contact Fanatec and get your FFB sorted?
Stefano , given that you have time.. , can you send me also the recipe for the pizza?
Cheers

 

Fanatec gives us good stuff but maybe too much choices...at the end to go back on the good road i had to put FEI to 100...now it works well, the problem with fanatec wheels with those values is that on some curbs (some low curbs) and braking when going slow you have some rattling. This is not to criticise but just to give you this information. I think you are close to fanatec people and maybe it is possible to find a simple solution for this problem. Thank you so much for your patience and time.

 

I don't know what's so complicated to set up with a CSW v2.5?!
General Rule of thumb is to ALWAYS leave the FF at 100 in the Tuning Menu. Adjust the FFB ONLY in Game.
Beside this you can leave the whole Tuning Menu at default values. So Sens Auto, Shock adjust to your liking of you want the vibration motors in a ClubSport Rim vibrate (I hate it therefore I have set this to off), ABS adjust to your liking if you want CSP brake pedal vibrations when hitting specific threshold (so it's kind of a fake effect, the tires maybe are not locking up in the moment the motor vibrates), Drift mode adjust to your liking if you like dampened FFB or direct FFB, Force leave at 100, Spr is not doing anything in ACC, dpr is only adding damping while standstill and when Dynamic damping is activated, Brf adjust to your liking how you want to setup your brake sensitivity, FEI leave at 100.

So this is my setting:
Sens Auto
FF 100
Sho off
Abs off
Drift -01
For 100
Spr 100 (but doesn't make any difference to set this to off)
Dpr 100
Brf 50
FEI 100

So summary, the only values I changed from the default values are Sho from 100 to OFF and Drift Mode from -05 to -01.
Everything else on default.

 

Fanatec is everywhere in the game...I do not know if they have a partnership or is only commercial propaganda, in any case fanatec gives good wheel at a reasonable price, so maybe some testing could solve the problem. The base fanatec setup needs some tuning to work well with ACC.We are just speaking trying to find the best settings. Developers and community experience can help.

 

In any case someone posted here before to use FEI 100 and that was the solution. The base setting is 50, so speaking of this problem has solved this issue with this wheel. No criticism and no trolling. I am also thinking to buy fanatec direct drive wheel...Hope FEI is not there too waiting for me...