Assetto Corsa Competizione - Generic discussion

Yes, Formula 3’s at Sonoma. This isn’t an aero issue, this issue is a mechanical grip one. What you’re referring to is when you’re slower in turns with reduced aero in an aero car that’s very light, so your relying on mechanical grip. As for mechanical grip cars; Spec Miata, Spec racer Fords, and Ford GT’s (GT4 spec), Skip barber Skippies, and numerous concerted road cars meeting SCCA regulations like 350z, Subaru WRX (GT4 spec), and even raced horrible crap boxes in lemons. And that’s just the last 5-6 years, I’ve been racing for over 30, much of it motorcycles in WSMC and curbs are a whole other matter there... I know curbs better than my own kids, and all the variations of them. Hell I still call them “blister strips”.

Curbs in ACC (and AC stock tracks) act like you dropped a wheel off track.

Curbs are your friend, not your nemesis, that’s what sausage strips are for. Curbs can actually be quite sticky with hot tires.

Edit: oh, and Clio Renault 250 cup car, and Megan at the Nurburgring a few years back, I can tell you about every curb there. And some are designed to not be driven over (some are 45 degrees)

 

Depends on the kerbs. Some pose no issue, some may help you turn - which works in ACC - some you should stay away from - as is the case in ACC. You know that.

I'm not saying the kerbs in ACC are perfectly fine, but ultimately I think we're talking about edge cases where this issue occurs.

 

I remember they talking about looking into it. People have been complaining since the beginning and they didn't change a thing yet...

 

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/gaming/gaming-assetto-corsa-competizione-review

 

I'm not sure what you're trying to tell me by quoting my posts without writing anything.

Edit: @Oblit0r , since the quote doesn't show up either.

 

Basically asking you the same question you asked Lawndart; Have you raced a GT3 or other similarly quick and aero-dependent car in real life?

 

No, but neither have I mentioned that I have raced in real life. Lawndart did, so I asked if they drove a downforce-dependent car at speed. I got my answer, what I make of that doesn't matter (I'm not the engineer or programmer to judge that). So what's your point again?

 

Seemed to me like there was some kind of rhetoric in your question, maybe I'm wrong tho. I rather listen to someone talk about curbs who has experience driving on them, than listening to people who never have telling us what they supposedly should be like.

 

At SPA on the cooldown lap he still tells me to avoid the kerbs lol

 

My question was what the text says. Just something I wanted to know.

And I rather listen to someone who has to deal with the science behind the interaction of car and surface. Race track experience can be extremely helpful but it doesn't overrule hard data. In most of these discussions about kerb issues you rarely see people dive into the details of what is going wrong, it's all vague descriptions. Especially in Youtube videos with the red mist of the racing hanging over everything... People are quick to put the blame on the software whenever something goes wrong.

 

Even that person says there are issues with some of the curbs
https://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/curb-behaviour.51750/page-23#post-1060847
https://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/curb-behaviour.51750/page-24#post-1061736

 

hey has anyone noticed the sound of the AI cars seems to be restricted?
I have yet to try 100/100, but at 90/90 you can hear it sounds restricted...
probably designed that way to give me a chance lol

 

Is it possible to have 2 sets of graphic setting files for VR and non-VR? When I want to watch replays of some races I have done, I want to be able to watch in 2D without having to change all the settings I use in VR.

 

And I didn't say that there are no issues whatsoever with kerbs. No simulation is perfect. So?

 

you still need to exit out and go back in...
Since v1.0.2 I have to specify opening in VR or it always opens up in pancake (right click on ACC in steam and choose open with Oculus VR)

 

Epistolarious and I have been in here for a few years, I think he knew I had racing experience so the question was likely lagit, but to OblitOr’s point it sounded loaded after you put the internet filters on

But besides racing, I’m also a game developer of over 25 years, serving most production roles in that time. And as an owner of a studio that primarily focuses on Unreal engine games, I have a good idea what Kunos are doing, and will likely bring it up with Stephano at E3 next week (if he is there). But it’s a matter of why, not how, as AC was the same and they didn’t adjust it for their own reasons. Perhaps it’s cheap easy anti cheating? Discouraging taking too much curb? A lagit gameplay reason that I haven’t really thought through all the edge cases. And as such, I get the luxury of being here as another demanding consumer

 

Thanks for the links, that comment was spot on, it feels like your front wheels are being pulled by the curbs. My personal issue is at the end of the Kemel straight at Spa, Thime was having the exact same issues.

 

Well, so much for being a simulator right?

 

And it wasn't intended to be "loaded" beyond asking for something specific. It was a simple question and I got an answer.

What I don't buy into is this popular exaggeration that the interaction with kerbs is completely broken, because otherwise the tracks in the sim would not be drivable and that's clearly not the case. I have seen several cases of people immediately putting blame on the "kerb of death" and the sim physics when it was not clear at all from the footage that this was the issue. When the person on the receiving end of a spin after driving over kerbs comes automatically to the conclusion that the physics have to be wrong then I'm going allow myself to remain sceptical. In other cases it's very clear that something isn't working as it should, but they're not common cases (as in preventing driving over kerbs entirely). None of that means that I'm saying the problem doesn't exist. Only that I think that there are more people talking over their heads than they perhaps realise. Just an observation...

What UE development or a produce role has to do with this I don't know. As you say, it was a known limitation of the simulation in AC1 as well.

Anyway...