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Comparing the nordschleife. ac vs iracing

Discussion in 'Chit Chat Room' started by Ace Pumpkin, Dec 5, 2015.

  1. If you watch his streams you'll see that the FFB is clipping all the time. I think the FFB is not very important to him.

    I'm just talking about my experiences with sim softwares during my way from entry level hardware for high-end hardware and that is what I've learned. Believe it or not. It might be total bullsheit but there might also be some thruth in it. You have to make the choice. :)
     
  2. Sorry, maybe the reason you keep repeating this over and over is to justify your high dollar wheel, not sure, but it sure as hell isn't true. Good for you that you are in a position to spend a couple grand on a wheel, I would spend it too if I had it; but quit posting over and over how you need that wheel in order to appreciate AC because it simply isn't true.
     
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  3. Good. I can also stay quiet and stop correcting that FFB in AC is not that bad people think. The reason why I've said is that I've been lucky enough to have a chance to experiment with entry, mid-range and ridiculously overkill hardware and therefore have some perspective how different hardware works. It just is the strenght and a weakness in AC. But as you wish.. :)

    I'll promise you, I'll stay quiet in the future.. :)

    Edit: Experimenting with Steer_assist (FFB linearity/gamma) value in car physics may be an eye opener. I hope this comes user adjustable in the future as this value has a big impact how cars will feel with different hardware.
     
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  4. Ace Pumpkin

    Ace Pumpkin Alien

    Oil William, oil:p
     
  5. Ace Pumpkin

    Ace Pumpkin Alien

    Just in case someone missed it, mods interfered:

    guys, last warning, DO NOT OPEN OFFICIAL CONTENT. From now it will be instaban, don't even ask why.

    so talking about Nords is fine, but giving encrypted information away will be penalized by forum death. Nobody wants this for shure.
    Stay clean.
     
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  6. Caleb Mils

    Caleb Mils Gamer

    .
     
    Last edited: Dec 11, 2015
  7. esox71

    esox71 Alien

    Steering assist?
    Have know clue what file is or why your changing it, but maybe when picking your profile for wheel in settings this changes?
     
  8. Game breaker.

    Charges $15

    Everybody knew that they purchased the cloud data for this track, and for the rest of the tracks yes, they have more quality and accuracy due to their scanning technique, which is also more expensive.

    Not sure what's the point of calling others fanboys when your post is a brilliant example of fanboyism.
     
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  9. Skybird

    Skybird Alien

    2 x $15 ;)
    One for Nürburgring GP, one for Nordschleife.
     
  10. Quffy

    Quffy Alien

    Is not a ludicrous thing. They are two separate tracks with two different types of racing. Is not Nordschleife divided in two, but are quite different tracks.
     
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  11. Stereo

    Stereo Alien

    It's a car.ini setting, it is meant to help compensate for cars with larger dynamic range of forces (eg. high-downforce cars), where making it linear would mean there's 0 ffb feeling on consumer wheels before 150km/h since downforce is proportional to speed squared, so if you have maximum FFB at 300km/h then you have 1/4 of that at half the speed (and less than 1/4 in practice if you've got it tuned to not clip) and basically nothing at all under 50km/h (1/10th of max, like turning FFB down from 80 to 8 in a non-downforce car).
     
  12. Different tracks.
     
  13. Skybird

    Skybird Alien

    Some events use both tracks and use them as one, as you certainly know.

    However, iR is an expensive party, imo. The general pricing leaves even Raceroom behind.
     
  14. Kristaps

    Kristaps Alien

    I haven't played iR for about 1,5 years, so this problem still applies?
    I searched for iR RUF rwd street car drift video, and there was this one hilarious comment from iR fanboy >

    "iRacing made the sliding/oversteering harder to control, too make the simulation more serious. iRacing is hard to master, because iRacing wants the sim racer to have a competitive simulation. so the sim racers can compete their racing skills to each other. And because its hard to master, people drive in it for years or even for ever and dont want any other racing simulation. Realistic physics ? Yes and No. Lets say the Physics are insanely well made, compared to real life physics. In realife you have much more time to correct a slide and your car has much more grip. sometimes its funny how easy it is in iRacing to spin out. But in the last update they added a new tire physics model. now you have a little bit more grip but its still not the same as in real life. All in all is iRacing the best racing simulator because its interesting and never bores you out."
     
  15. The RUF RWD is really easy to drift, unless you weight transfer too hard, cause rear engine.
     
  16. Kristaps

    Kristaps Alien

    Can you do this in iR? i am sure some iR freaks can, but every other random simracer?

    I can drift easily in LFS, AC, rF2
    but in iR it's a frustration fest
     
    Last edited: Dec 12, 2015
  17. That video is terrible, so many pointless point of views... But yeah, easily. I remember this one hosted at Zandvoort, I was drifting the entire track several laps in a row.
     
  18. Kristaps

    Kristaps Alien

    You are a freak William:)
    I have tired drifting RUF on a skid pad with super fast unrealistic steering rack, and it's still doesn't help, like @dauntless said "But god forbid if the rear steps out and the car just wants to spin so bad. It just wants to spin. It's not just dedicated, it's commited! And countersteering doesn't seem to work in iracing at all. Instead you need to saw your wheel left to right like madman just to have a hope in hell of saving the tiny meaningless slide you have gotten yourself into..."

    Empty Box has even a term for that - "death wiggle"

    So if you say drifting iR's RUF is easy
    then drifting AC's RUF is absolute arcade child play?
     
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  19. Clearly I'm gonna get EAC BAND for hacking.

    so sed
     
  20. Kristaps

    Kristaps Alien

    Show me a vid of drifting iR's rwd RUF @ Swedencreutz:p even Stefan Roser didn't have balls for taht
     
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