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F40 and Road Cars in general

Discussion in 'Chit Chat Room' started by Fernandito, Feb 10, 2017.

  1. Fernandito

    Fernandito Racer

    Hey Kunos.

    First and foremost I love your work. I know your passionated and dedicated devs who love racing above anything else, but I can't help but ask you about something that, sure It's been asked and shown before, but understand I didn't find it.

    Question is. Why can't I do this in your game with a F40? (4:18 - 7:27)



    And now the more general question. Why are road cars so difficult to drive in your game?. I know you use mathematical stuff in your game in order to replicate real physics, but then..., why isn't this possible. In short. Racing cars are easier to drive than what you reproduce with your road cars in assetto corsa. Why are they so hard in AC then if you replicate real physics?. The

    Please address this matter in future patches. Please look further into your tyre model behaviour, because things in real life are definitely easier than they are in assetto corsa.

    Regards and keep up the good work.
     

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  3. mantasisg 2

    mantasisg 2 Alien

    Maybe something is wrong with your wheel, pedals or car setup, or not enough skill.
     
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  4. DuckeyTapey

    DuckeyTapey Hardcore Simmer

    Perfectly doable in Assetto Corsa. The problem is likely in your driving abilities and/or your game settings.
     
  5. It's funny cause I think AC is way more permissive than IRL. But that's beating a dead horse.

    Either your hardware settings are really bad, or you're not very good at driving. The latter is a normal thing, not everyone can drift like Harris does.
     
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  6. Nmoleiro

    Nmoleiro Gamer

    If you had an F40 and you smashed your accelerator pedal in real life as you do on the sim maybe things would be more close. In real life we can smash the pedals of our everyday cars because they are weak... Try that with 300, 400 or more HP under your right foot.
    Another thing is the sense of speed and fear, i the sim we dont get the same sense of speed nor fear so we tend to dont lift and/or brake later....

    I sometimes say to my friends watching me lap the ring: i if was there for real in this car, i know i wouldnt be able to push like this.
     
  7. djtopa

    djtopa Hardcore Simmer

    Hmm I agree road cars are harder to drive thats why I almost never drive racing car in AC haha...
    I think thats because of race cars have better tyres,brakes,aero,suspension and all other things that make car easier to drive fast on racing track...
     
  8. Race car: (much) Higher limit, makes you think you're going super fast even tho you're still far from the limit. Even more so IRL because of the forces. Also usually perfectly balanced (corner load and cross weight).

    Street car: Way less grip, easier to get over the limit of grip even going fairly slowly, badly balanced (unequal corner load and cross weight), usually compromised between street usage and performance (or fully street biased) making them not good at anything specifically, etc.

    Basically, you're just bad at controlling a car at and over the limit. With race cars that limit is much higher and easier to fall back in if you drive a bit badly, giving you a false sense of "easiness".
     
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  9. Epistolarius

    Epistolarius Alien

    Practice, practice, practice. Seriously, that's a well-meant tip. /thread.
     
  10. Wrong practice is bad practice tho, so you can't always say that. He's doing something wrong for sure somewhere. But of course there's no way to tell from a forum post.
     
  11. Andy-R

    Andy-R Alien

    modern race cars are way more sketchy than road cars in AC. i suck at drifting but i can hold a slide quite easily in a lot of road cars, especially on street tyres where the slicks and sensitive steering make it way more difficult in the modern race machines. is it possible you are over driving the road cars and under driving the race cars?
     
  12. chakko

    chakko Alien

    Road cars drive great in AC.
     
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  13. Turk

    Turk Alien

    I find it hard to drift. I can hold long prolonged drifts if I'm trying to avoid them in a race but once I try to just drift, it doesn't work. I don't put much time into drifting though, it's skill you need to learn.
     
  14. Did the OP seriously ask why he doesn't have the same skills as Chris Harris?

    I can't drift at all, but I can powerslide a bit here and there and AC feels pretty damn close to real life to me.


     
  15. kofotsjanne

    kofotsjanne Alien

    Oh yeah, im sure drifting a ferrari f40 is easier in real life than ac. ;) Fix it!
     
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  16. Turk

    Turk Alien

    It could also be a wheel setting. If my old fanatec wheel isn't set to 2 on the drift option the FFB just sort of lets go when it comes to counter steer making it very difficult to know what the wheels are doing. My wheel is also slightly broken, it's very loose around the centre which make older cars difficult to keep straight.
     
  17. chakko

    chakko Alien

    I'd recommend to join a drift server. ;)
     
  18. Yeah, for me its pretty spot on.

    And by that I mean I can catch a bit of oversteer if need be, and can make it slide, but by no means is it pretty or graceful. And that's both IRL and in AC.
     
  19. Orne

    Orne Alien

    Everybody wonders why they can't drive like Chris Harris, perhaps you lack the skill lad !

    I can't comment on how accurately the F40 is modeled in AC although I've not seen many people on youtube driving a real F40. Turbo lag is a beast to deal with in that car. I have seen videos of people in AC drifting the F40.

    ahem.... :rolleyes:

     
    Last edited: Feb 10, 2017
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  20. ECGadget

    ECGadget Racer

    OP, it is all down to practise. A lot of it. After many many laps in an F40 I am confident enough to slide it somewhat. And it is difficult to slide yes, but not because of the entry into the slide. It is due to the way the boost works. If you want to try sliding it, raise up the tyre pressures and see if that helps you out.

    This is the same with all road cars. Most are designed to understeer from a safety point, so you need to throw it to the limit to get them oversteering.
     
  21. Alistair McKinley

    Alistair McKinley Hardcore Simmer

    The same idea sprang to my mind. :)
    Chris Harris can drift anything! I mean: He's been driving so many different cars for so many years - he lives and breathes cars (if that is the right expression in english). I doubt that I will ever have more hours in Assetto Corsa and all of its sequels than Chris Harris has spent time in and with cars by now. And he's not that old. :-D

    @Fernandito:
    Maybe there is something wrong at your end - like others have already stated.
     

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