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How to deal with players who experience ping spikes

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by mantasisg 2, Nov 3, 2016.

  1. mantasisg 2

    mantasisg 2 Alien

    I just ruined online race for everybody because of random ping spike. It was rather terrible because it was Lap 1 Turn 1. It was sad.

    I wonder if there is a way to prevent ping spikes to cause collisions between cars.

    If it is possible for program to know that player has high ping, then maybe pinged car could turn into non-physical object for several seconds. Like they are in the pits.
     

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  3. Slamdrunken

    Slamdrunken Racer

    Don't fight inches for positions just fight meters. leave plenty space around you.
     
  4. Rift Racer

    Rift Racer Alien

    Where is the fun in that lol?
     
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  5. mantasisg 2

    mantasisg 2 Alien

  6. Slamdrunken

    Slamdrunken Racer

    He ask about lag spikes.
     
  7. mantasisg 2

    mantasisg 2 Alien

    When ping hits, then player car starts to warp all around the place, do you know that ? You don't make any sense.
     
  8. evil_overlord

    evil_overlord Simracer

    If you're talking about the RSR on Silverstone 67 race, don't worry, you didn't ruin it for everybody. You clearing my way in Turn 1 actually worked out beautifully... :D :p
     
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  9. mantasisg 2

    mantasisg 2 Alien

    Yes it was RSR Silverstone 1967 server, possibly it was me :D

    I'm glad it was not bad for everybody lol

    I remember at least two guys left the server instantly lol

    I was disappointed by server management, it was clearly the case when race should have been restarted. Maybe there were no admins. Doesn't really matter now.
     
  10. evil_overlord

    evil_overlord Simracer

    I would have expected the players to vote for a session restart in a case like that. But then again, it is surprising how often those votes don't go through even with that kind of carnage in Turn 1...

    Anyway, back to the topic of lag spikes... I like the idea of "ghosting" a player's car during a lag spike, but only in combination with some sort of high ping autokick feature.
    So for example if you have a ping below 300 and get a lag spike, your car is turned into a ghost for a few seconds. If you permanently have a ping higher than 300, you get kicked rather than permanently ghosted, because otherwise you'd be able to just drive through all your opponents at will.

    Unfortunately, I don't see a feature like that coming to AC in the foreseeable future.
     
  11. Infectonator

    Infectonator Racer

    I would say that the car, apart from being invisible/non-physical object, should also be penalised by loosing 30%~50% of performance while it doesnt recover from ping instability.
     
  12. mantasisg 2

    mantasisg 2 Alien

    I don't know about that. It is already hard to keep up with other players with good performance, it is even harder to do while having high ping, maybe even impossible. But I'd agree with autokick when high ping lasts. But when you have ping over the top it becomes impossible to drive, you start changing your location (teleporting all over the place), or other cars does it. It doesn't make sense to continue racing if ping last longer. I have never had it for more than ~3-5seconds, but I have seen some players who keeps pinging all the time for whole sessions. Maybe autokick would be good.

    I think it wouldn't be necessary, I don't think ping gives any advantage, does it ?
     
  13. Infectonator

    Infectonator Racer

    Its not a matter of advantage. The problem is that a car flying around with high ping is a problem to others.

    If you have high ping and latency issues its your problem only. go fix your connection.

    Other drivers should not have to avoid/fight jumping cars like they are in a mine field.

    If you loose your pace a little, other drivers should pass you with ease and safety.
     
  14. mantasisg 2

    mantasisg 2 Alien

    Infectonator - If you have high ping and latency issues its your problem only. go fix your connection.
    Me - Yes it is mine problem only, but when I splash half of the grid out, then the problem is shared. And ping spike can happen for anybody.

    Infectonator - Other drivers should not have to avoid/fight jumping cars like they are in a mine field.
    Me - Yes they wouldn't have to avoid (whisch is sometimes imposible to do because it is just teleporting all over the place). So very logical solution is to make it non physical for other cars, like in pits.

    Infectonator - If you loose your pace a little, other drivers should pass you with ease and safety.
    Me - Pace will not matter when teleporting everywhere around.
     
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  15. I had a massive ping spike on the last race I had (911 RSR at Riverside...) - went from the usual 60-70 to like 500-1000 :eek: at the start line, so as soon as the race began I just pulled off to the side. I didn't want to get involved and ruin anyone's race.

    Everyone got passed fine and once they were a good 10-15 seconds up the road I began racing again. After a lap or so my ping was normal and I could race again. Actually had a good race, being that car and track I was passing people all the time as they spun under braking :D Made it up to 1st around lap 12, then my gearbox went (my own fault). :p
     
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  16. mantasisg 2

    mantasisg 2 Alien

    Nice experience ! You also reminded me to move steam fps count from right to left :D
     

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