lotus 49 feels like an arcade version, lacks tires

just spend about 4hrs testing this sim car, altering setup etc

lack of depth in the "feel" / physics of this sim car

lack of tire model

dull FFB very basic

feels like there is traction control & some ABS on

seems under powered

I only have rf2 & iracings version as referance
(both are diferent but very high standard + I've spent some good time with )

this version i feel would be more attractive to the forza/arcade crowd

maybe its only partly built within the software & awaiting updates ????????????

I can get this around a track pretty quickly after practice but almost fall asleep mid way
I'm maybe being a bit harsh but just being straight honest etc
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anyway sounds as though I'm having a good moan, there are aspects of AC which are very good,
looking forward to updates

thanks

 

I can't even get to grips with this car. I find it is all over the place. FFB not very good. Braking is awful, handling is terrible. I don't know if it's just me but it feels completely wrong compared to GPL and iRacing.

PS I am very curious Adrian, why, with your specs you are running the sim at "mainly low" when I can, with my sepcs run everything mainly high and still get constant 60 fps with vsync on adaptive, and 100 with vsync completely off? Why have such a rig if you're not going to enjoy it? You should be able to get great fps even with most things except cubemaps on max.

 

What does "pretty quickly" mean in terms of laptimes?

 

comparing it seems completely flat to me, something incomplete or been done in a rush without passion ( no offence ),

some cars feel good others not so, but this one feels like very early incomplete beta, there are very good versions out there in rf2 / iracing so people will compare

I do thinik this will really only be liked by arcade type users ( no offence )

I'm sitting on the fence at the moment I really cant decide if AC is a very good arcade title or going to be a very good simulator

p.s , very slick software though -I'm fairly positive

laptimes -I ment lapping whilst hitting most apexes fairly close to the edge in some instances etc not going for the ultimate laptime so didnt take much notice in actual times etc

 

I think they have said somewhere that the car physics for the Lotus 49 are not complete.

 

phew, thanks, yes it feels very incomplete, from a graphical point of view it looks stunning though , as does the rest of the cars / tracks

this iconic car is pretty much a sim master piece in rf2 & iracing version, AC has their work cut out on this one

 

Give it 50 more laps and you will reconcider Tweak urself an agressive setup and drive it very smoothly and carefully like in real life, then it starts to deliver. Im 100% impressed and i used to be a big rfactor f167 supporter

 

Risto

thanks for advice but I did about 3.5hrs worth of laps & my impression was pretty much the same after about 20mins worth

glad your finding it fun though, but to me its not really a simulator class car right now ( thus why I mentioned foza etc etc )

 

https://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/lotus-49-is-not-a-street-car.1807

Heres a thread i created a while ago btw. Certanly it can be tweaked but my final expression is marked above

 

Its still beta cars at not done 100% give it time please. How well some cars drive we know in the end it will be great. Kunos loves there games as well and what it to be as accurate as possible. Please have a bit more patience.

 

I'm lost for words at this post. I can't believe you're saying it's "awful" and "terrible" based solely on other simulators. iRacing, maybe, but GPL? I love it to death, but its physics are far from totally realistic by modern standards.

I wish people would stop using other simulators as benchmarks. Look at the real car.



I reckon Kunos are the closest so far. In my opinion, it could be a bit twitchier, and it feels like it grips a tad too well under throttle. That's about it.

 

Also, even if GPL is good... by its time standards it is NO match for today tyre tech in recent seems. PERIOD. Comparing apples and oranges here.

I also think that generally, people don't like changes even if for the better. Confort zone is a *****.

PS: I'm not saying L49 is good. I also posted before about this. It's just that no matter what sim or anything new TBH, it's the same old boring "hardcore" opinions...

 

Why is it that some sim racers think driving on ice is what a real sim should drive like?

 

IMHO, this is the worse car of AC, by far...
Feel synthetic, lifeless...I really hope that it will be revised!

 

Re. Lotus 49 -I think it must be the case that's it's not complete, as a sim car it feel like a early beta rf1 mod to me.
There were some very good rf1 mods I'm not having a dig at rf1

There will always be people with different opinions etc, yes I'm pretty much the hardcore sim type,
arcade racers bore me to death within 1 minute.

Iracing does feel a tad like driving on ice, rf2 doesn't, they both feel very different but I like the physics approach of both, there is depth & skill to acquire in (most of) their sim cars.

Kunos have done a good job with the early release version of AC, I think it's the nicest looking title I've ever seen on my PC, it runs pretty darn well too which for me is a big step forward , I just hope that physics quality becomes good too.

Looking forward to updates with fingers crossed

 

Heres a set for Monza. Welcome to comment. Hope you like it a bit. :]

 

Especially take notice of Ascari & Parabolica.
Probably one of the faster laps alltho he probably already improved it.

 

i think people have play too much ircing or RF or arcade games
when i look the video of ethan , i see A.C , same grip same lost of grip...

 

<Yes you can keep learning as you go as the dynamics have each lap changing ,tire wear,rubber build up , it all seem's alive in rf2 they kind of set the bar pretty high with this feature ..

This is kind of a good indacator to me , not a real big learning curve here , in fact i feel this way about most of the cars so far in AC .... Not saying thats a bad thing ,it will probubly draw a larger croweds , the hard core drivers can see it already , to each there own !


AS for the lotus the car seems flat and "canned" ? maybe wrong word " to me , somthing seems to be up like posted above they felt like TS or somthing is on .. its like is on rails and you have your way with it with little effort ... I doubt the real one would drive this easy ..lol but I for sure dont know ..

I am fasanated by the sim non the less ..Glad i bought it and will split my time with it and rF2 !.. looking foward to some MP once it gets implemented , It shoud be great for players that dont have alot of time to train and want to find some quick action ..

Lets see what changes as they move foward !

 

Kro,

Good comments , the lotus 49 in rf2 is totally polished though it's i think about the best ever from ISI the ffb detail & immersion in the overall physics is incredible, the Iracing version has a strong following too but I think the rf2 version is about the best.

I'm glad I bought AC too, they have the best UI , graphics, even their forum system is the best lol, the apps coming in from the side etc is perfection & I'm really really hoping things will come good in the physics dept otherwise it will become unused by me , graphics will not swing it as arcade style physics become boring very very quickly

I think what can happen with devs sometimes is they can become blind to their own work then any guest trying it will nod yes & smile when trying it etc,

At the end of the day as long as AC's software engine can handle top quality physics & deliver detail in ffb then the future is very bright, possible sim car updates to official content from Kunos and/or top modders offerings will get us there