Feeling

Hi Devs, i just went today back to netkar pro to have some fun online, untill we have online in AC.
right out of the box i felt again the purity of netkar in terms of ffb, direct and stiff, feels like a simulator.
then i wnet back to do some laps on AC, and suddently felt AC more like a game rather than a simulator, more loose and spongy.
Sure in terms of physics i see AC like more spot on. but in terms of what you get through the wheel still needs a lot of work and also the way some cars spin, like entering a programed spin that last like 2 o r 3 seconds sometimes (exagerating a bit) (f40 for example)

I'm not posting this just to bush AC, that is not my motive, i just want devs to let know what a client thinks on the product, and i wish it to be improved, to enjoy the feeling in a level like netkar pro. offered

keep up the hard work!!

 

You've hit that nail on the head, excellent post. The spins do feel very strange, in the real world cars do not keep spinning at under 20mph. I also prefer the feel of NKpro, we still have a long way to go before release candidate so let's hope AC has that same feel as NK sometime soon.


eidt: I did not even think about taking my multiplayer needs back to NK, that will change very soon. Thanks for the wake up call.

 

+1.

 

0:20.You can spin at very low speed.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring...-embarrassing-accident-at-traffic-lights.html

 

it¡s about how feel, not if they spin or not

 

well no.. feel is subjective, physics are not.

 

phisics is one thing, already said they are spot on

 

Also the lack of realism in the slow speed spins is likely to be down to the near zero physics bug which has been much discussed and will be fixed.

 

I also liked nKpro's really direct FFB at first, but now that I have 200hrs in AC I have to say there's nothing wrong with AC's FFB at all. Infact the feeling of weight transfer is much better, this maybe translates into "spongy" feeling especially if you have wrong FFB settings.

nKpro has much more direct grip feeling from the tires. At first glance you might think nKpro's FFB is better but if you really get used to AC and just adjust FFB to your taste as much as possible, you can feel every little weight transfer and slide. But especially the weight of the car, not so much the slipping of the tires when you're not sliding alot.

All in all I like both AC's and nKpro's FFB but I do feel AC's is more realistic.

 

Hmm I don't spend driving under 5kph alot Where this bug is supposed to be present.

 

what i complain is more on the slides so can easyly be tyremodel, but also you dont get the same feedback through the wheel when you are spinning, so to me its a bit of both

 

If you have a G25/G27 try these settings in Huayra:

Profiler - 100% gain, 900°, everything else 0%, centering and allow game to adjust ticked.
AC - 68-0-0, 60-70-10

 

i use same setting on netkar and in AC profiler 101% else on 0
in game gain 120% less its too weak for me rest is on 0 except for road effects kerb on 10% and slip angle 20%


edit= if i use in game less gain i even fell less things

 

why would you do that, is that something that have arrived at through testing, or did you just set them the same.. Just because some of the team work on both, doesnt mean the same settings carry between the two. Like I said feel is subjective, if FFB is wrong, feel will be wrong.

 

in AC i tried every kind of setting on the force feedback at finally found those settings to be the closest between games

in netkar you can adjust ffb gain per car so each car i set different gain

in AC you can't you have to go to the main menu

but at the end i don't look at numbers i just set by feel

 

Just "feeling" the FFB won't make you faster. IMO your gain is too heavy and you lose time because you can't react and turn the wheel as fast. I like moderate to light steering, just enough so you can hold the wheel lightly and have much more precision.

I have enough feedback with 60-80 gain, depending on car.

Also, try 100% in profiler, this will make it more dead on center but more precise overall(no clipping). You 101% in profiler and 120% in AC will make will result in alot of clipping(look at right bar in pedals app, if it gets red ffb is clipping).

PS - It seems like the old nKpro freaks are having problems adjusting to AC... Rather than hunting that nKpro feel, I'd reccomend you just try and adjust to AC because it's a different sim.

 

i don't care about that, i set it the way i cant feel better tha cars, and it's in this way that i can feel them better, with lower gain i dont feel them

also in netkar i use pretty strong gain and also clipped

 

Hm I dunno then. FFB is a very personal thing.

Remember Kimi complaining he doesn't like the steering in Lotus? Same thing. Some like it light, some heavier and more raw...

 

yes, but the point in this thread is not that, is light or strong, is the lack of feel compared to netkar in terms of in nkpro feels more tight and slides are better in my opinion, in AC feels more like a game and slides are weird and the you correct it a bit blind, then it bounces from side to side, this doesnt happen in netkar

 

no, but it IS what happens in real life.