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Generic Online multiplayer seems chaotic after 1.14) Possible solutions

Discussion in 'Console Lounge' started by SlimCharles, May 18, 2017.

  1. Dyr_gl

    Dyr_gl Racer

    I for one am happy. The quality of pickup racing will go down but leagues are possible now.
     
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  2. Reinart86

    Reinart86 Racer

    Yes for sure a separate place between custom and public lobbies would be nice, or just different font style. I agree on that
     
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  3. SlimCharles

    SlimCharles Alien

    There is a lot of possible solutions, but at the end is the same: possibility to differenciate very easily custom private from custom public from official servers.

    To add that, I suggest the creation of another type of lobby (that must be differenciated from the other types of lobbies too): public with exactly the same settings as the official servers but with configurable track and cars. The cars should have some restrictions that I've already explained.
     
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  5. PRO Stream BG

    PRO Stream BG Simracer

    One of the "cool" options to be happy with the curent patch and the lobbys is, if you a member of any clean/realistic community! If you are you dont care for the "idiotic" servers! You play your own with your buddys and you know they play and set servers how ypu like (at least in my community have a realism factor and nobody use stupid electronic helps and unrealostic setting)! So ...is a bit too strong your thread ...we must be greatfull to recieve FREEDOM. And create servers....until now was the problem, now the only problem is , the TYRE Wear didnt work after the patch! But with the online feature they do a good job...in my opinion! (i understand your, but can be fixed if you group with correct people)

    Also all this can be fixed in future patches, when they set a search Server fillter options (so patiense) , now is much more important to make server stables, and fix few patch errors i think...
     
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  6. Sergi_

    Sergi_ Rookie

    [Quote = "slimcharles, missatge: 879.157, membre de: 142.941"] em va dir que no era una bona idea deixar el control de la secció multijugador a les persones. Tenia raó. Vostè simplement no pot donar plena llibertat al poble (cosa que podria ser impressionant amb una mica d'ordre), a causa de que això passi.

    Aquí va la llista de qüestions amb la secció multijugador:
    • noms idiotes que no fan que sigui fàcil tenir una punta del que es tracta al vestíbul: "Els jugadors de PS4 són idiotes", "jgghj" "Boby i Jules vestíbul" "Poweeer" o alguna cosa per l'estil.
    • reixetes idiotes: cotxes d'GT3 amb S1 E2, Alfa GTA amb Nissan GT3, Escort amb M4, 2 LMP1 i la resta amb GT3 ...
    • temps Idiotic o configuració voltes.
    • Un milió de diferents tipus de configuracions (TC, ABS, ESP, dany% ...) que no satisfà a ningú.
    • El milió de nous vestíbuls idiotes amaguen els vestíbuls oficials.
    • Els més importants: un molt difícil crear nous grups de pressió (el 99% de les vegades el joc et diu "Error, impossible per crear el vestíbul plau, intenti més tard.").

    Possible solució: crear dues seccions, 1 amb els grups de pressió totalment configurables (privat o públic) i un altre amb els vestíbuls oficials i grups de pressió creats per les persones amb opcions restringides:
    • La secció "amb els grups de pressió totalment configurables (privades o públiques)": exactament igual que la secció que tenim en aquest moment, però, els vestíbuls públics ha de ser diferenciada de les privades (grups de pressió privats nomenar amb algun tipus de ombra ).
    • La secció amb vestíbuls oficials i grups de pressió creats per les persones amb opcions restringides: les opcions de disponibilitat restringida pels grups de pressió creats pels usuaris podrien ser ( inspirated als vestíbuls oficials, que funcionen molt bé ):
      • En primer lloc ha de triar entre la raça o el circuit de competició.
      • sessió:
        • Sessió de pràctica només dues opcions: cap moment si al vestíbul s'estableix per a una carrera; temps màxim si el vestíbul està configurat per crear un vestíbul Tandes
        • Classificació: totes les pistes situades al 15 minuts. Nordschleife establert en 30 minuts. BCC llargs i Highlands llarga estableix en 20 minuts.
        • durada de la cursa: en totes les pistes un mínim de 5 voltes, màxim 15 voltes. Nordschleife max 4 voltes i un mínim de 2 voltes. BCC llarg i Highlands llarg màxim 8 voltes i un mínim de 2 voltes.
        • Cursa de retard d'inici: 60 segons.
      • Condicions: lliure de triar a excepció de superfície de la pista. "Verd" Crec que és la més raonable (que és la més estàndard).
      • assistències:
        • AutoClutch: la llibertat de triar
        • mantes de pneumàtics: en, com a Stefano va dir, és la més raonable, ja que farà les coses més fàcils i caos al primer revolt serà sempre un problema, que ajuda una mica. No és un gran problema per als incondicionals bull a foc lent, de manera que tothom és feliç.
        • Control de Tracció: fàbrica, és el més realista i el problema dels cotxes híbrids es resoldrà amb l'assignació de botons.
        • ABS: de fàbrica, el mateix que la CT.
        • Control d'estabilitat: En seleccionar "no", com ho és en els vestíbuls oficials. És el més realista, perquè no hi ha opció "de fàbrica".
      • realisme:
        • taxa de combustible: 100% (més realista)
        • taxa de danys: 100% (més realista)
        • Taxa de desgast dels pneumàtics: 100% (més realista)
        • pneumàtics permesos: 2 vegades (més realista)
        • Quilify límit: sense límit, el límit màxim és de 200%. Amb carreres multiclasse que podria ser un problema.
      • Reixetes: cal allunyar trolls, però no pot utilitzar les classes predefinides existents perquè això seria acabar amb les xarxes potencials impressionants i realistes. La millor solució seria triar entre els cotxes 2 (al màxim) de les classes predefinides ja existents (exemple: es pot triar els cotxes dels cotxes de luxe "" i "classes Hypercars"). 3 classes per triar serien massa perquè la carrera es convertiria en el 5 vs 5 vs 6. com 3 carreres en un, així que en comptes de tenir 6 usuaris en una carrera amb la mateixa velocitat, que podrien tenir 3 curses amb 2 usuaris en cada un amb la mateixa velocitat.
      • Pistes: no hi ha restriccions.
      • Nom: usuari no pot canviar-la. Seria es generarà automàticament. Seria té dues parts: un ha de ser "raça" o "Tandes". D'altra banda descriuria les classes involucrades en el vestíbul. Exemple: Tandes - F1 / LMP1
    [/ QUOTE]
    Jo crec que tot El que DIUS No És determinant. El mes important seria poder veure TOTA la informacio de les caracteristiques de la sala
     
  7. SlimCharles

    SlimCharles Alien

    Is like what @Dyr_gl said. Public multiplayer is not possible on Assetto anymore. If you want to race online, you will have to search for communities. No other way (thing I will do).

    Im not joking: if you want to race let say in less than 30 mins, there aren't almost no possibilities (as people for some reason set the lobbies with ridiculous qualifying and practice time). From those possibilities, a large number are bizarre.

    That will help definetly. But with no possibility to see in some easy way which of those lobbies are realistic or standard, the problem will still be there.

    I didn't said that in any way.
     
  8. PRO Stream BG

    PRO Stream BG Simracer

    Simple search filter gone a fix your issues, and im sure they gone a add it.. But overal is a good patch, who give us options to create own lobbys (all night racing with friends and community members, was awesome.., and when Button Mapping arive...gone a be amazing)
     
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  9. SRL D-Vibes

    SRL D-Vibes Gamer

    SlimCharles, do you have no friends or a community where you can drive ?

    in our community are many fair and fast drivers and after a long time of waiting, we can drive with our own settings
    on the servers. Most of the users want organise races with her friends or communitys, i think that´s the best way
    to race together and not a radom race., with people i do not know. You know the guys, there skilllevel and so on..

    Your heading with "caos" and "useless" and also "idiots" it´s a bit to much, this is only your point of view..

    maybe kunoz will include a filter in the near future for the servers, but everyday at evertime the people crying
    in the forum. Be happy that kunoz is hearing us and in the meantime enjoy one of the best racing simulation out now.

    Let us be grateful and appresiate the work of kunoz. It´s not a good feeling for the devs, when they do hard work
    and in the community is only screaming and crying.

    Sorry for my terrible englisch.. ;-)
     
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  10. Graveltrap

    Graveltrap Alien

    What you consider ridiculous qualifying or practice times are people that are running a trackday lobby, they are not interested in racing, just doing laps with other people ;)

    What you consider to be stupid makes perfect sense to those that created them, you would do well to remember that. o_O
     
  11. SlimCharles

    SlimCharles Alien

    I've already answer that. This will help, but not gonna solve the problem.

    I'm on a league, but that's irrelevant. I'm not saying online private racing is not possible (is all the way arround, private multiplayer will be a joy), Im saying public multiplayer is not possible anymore.

    I didn't said idiots. Read again. But if idiotic is a problematic word, change it for bizarre (I'm not english and I might misunderstood the meaning of the word "idiotic").

    Do you know the difference between constructive critizism and crying?

    You consider that a multiplayer is well ballanced when the 90% of the lobbies are trackdays? I repeat it, if you want to race in less than 30 mins, there arent almost no possibilities.

    Before the patch 1 lobby might interest 100 people. Now 100 lobbies interest only the creator of the lobby. You would like to drive Alfa GTA with Nismo, or F1 with the ferrari 458?
     
  12. Cosminbad

    Cosminbad Rookie

    SlimCharles i think you are the only person on this forum who wishes to play the initial multiplayer of Assetto Corsa.
     
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  13. martcerv

    martcerv Alien

    @SlimCharles is like a prisoner recently released then confused with his new found freedom, he doesn't know what to do with it and dreams of going back to prison where all decisions are made for him. :D
     
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  14. Birdorf

    Birdorf Gamer

    Things will calm down in a few days and it'll be easier to spot the lobby you want.

    Not read the whole OP, far too long for me.
     
  15. SlimCharles

    SlimCharles Alien

    No, I don't want the initial multiplayer.

    No, I didn't said that.

    This sums up prefectly what Im suggesting
    http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/i...4-possible-solutions.45292/page-2#post-879415
     
    Last edited: May 18, 2017
  16. Can somebody post some screens of the server browser?
     
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  17. Birdorf

    Birdorf Gamer

    I agree, as I thought I'd just have a quick look, then saw all the different configurations and options and decided to continue my solo career.

    As I said, it'll calm down soon and the good stuff will rise to the top.

    Hopefully.

    I'm just pleased it's here after such a long wait.

    *doffs cap to Kunos
     
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  18. AZT B Tender

    AZT B Tender Gamer

    step 1) make clean-racing friends
    step 2) create a lobby and race with your friends
    step 3) succes
     
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  19. Flavus

    Flavus Racer

    I jumped into a public race this morning, it was a bit of a crashfest at the start but the ping was good and no lag problems.
    If I am looking for a specific track or car I use the filters that are already in place and if it is public I jump in, cannot see the problem there.
    I think it is a huge step forward but some tweaking here and there would help.
    Keep up the good work Kunos
     
  20. Darera

    Darera Gamer

    Kunos published them in one of their message.
     
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