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Sense of speed....

Discussion in 'Chit Chat Room' started by MickyMutton, Dec 6, 2013.

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  1. IDLH_

    IDLH_ Simracer

    I have no such issues or complaints with sense of speed or FOV. If you were to put a HDTV-sized empty frame in your car and look through it, things would look slow compared to the scenery whipping by your peripheral outside the frame. A sim BETTER look slow at correct FOV on a flat TV.

    What you guys are asking for is a tweaked FOV for screen users who want that forza speed but want the interiors to look 1:1. Like a separate fisheye camera for the scenery and a separate one for the interior. No offense but I hope that never becomes a thing on AC unless it could be turned off.
     
    IDLH_, Dec 9, 2013
    #41
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  2. Asilo_Driver

    Asilo_Driver Racer

    I don't think this is related to FPS either, it seems to me a question of visual perspective. It looks like far objects pass way faster in Rfactor than Assetto Corsa for any reason, as Rfactor had more cone effect (what is far appears to me smaller in rF comparing to AC) and it gives more sense of speed.

    I don't think it's a matter of FOV only, there's more variables playing their roles here.
     
    Asilo_Driver, Dec 9, 2013
    #42
  3. Digital Aura

    Digital Aura Racer

    yes, THIS!
     
    Digital Aura, Dec 9, 2013
    #43
  4. Digital Aura

    Digital Aura Racer

    so no good news then for us single screen players? :(
     
    Digital Aura, Dec 9, 2013
    #44
  5. TheDyingScotsman

    TheDyingScotsman Hardcore Simmer

    It's not that simple. You find it ok, great for you, but the amount of people who do not find it ok proves you are the exception not the rule. There IS an issue with perceived speed.
     
    TheDyingScotsman, Dec 9, 2013
    #45
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  6. Ghanja

    Ghanja Racer

    I wonder how the experience would change if there was just a bit more contrast within the track (asphalt) texture. That way the eye and brain would see more moving planes in front of the car and "think" we are going faster? I know this sounds a bit off but who knows ...

    Gesendet von meinem A210 mit Tapatalk
     
    Ghanja, Dec 9, 2013
    #46
  7. schaefsky

    schaefsky Rookie

    So did you guys try to up "Camera shake at high speed"?
    Quite did it for me.
    I guess that would make it great.
     
    schaefsky, Dec 9, 2013
    #47
  8. IDLH_

    IDLH_ Simracer

    I'm just voting the other way - I would hate to see the current camera changed from sim calculated to perception massaged.
     
    IDLH_, Dec 10, 2013
    #48
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  9. SimMan

    SimMan Racer

    It really is settings

    Resolution aspect
    Fov setting

    That's it, a point cloud laser scan will give a true representation

    Read my post at the beginning of this thread

    Thanks
     
    SimMan, Dec 10, 2013
    #49
  10. hamilton smith

    hamilton smith Gamer

    I actually think the opposite compared to iR. Comparing the MP4 the AC version feels much faster compared to the iR
     
    hamilton smith, Dec 10, 2013
    #50
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  11. Toykilla!

    Toykilla! Racer

    Yep..iR has the slower GT3 Version....

    Mit den drecks S4 von Samsung verschickt...
     
    Toykilla!, Dec 10, 2013
    #51
  12. TheDyingScotsman

    TheDyingScotsman Hardcore Simmer

    no no...I don't want the camera changed.....I just want things to move faster lol.
     
    TheDyingScotsman, Dec 10, 2013
    #52
  13. petesky

    petesky Simracer

    But how can they make things move faster? If the car in Ac is moving at 100km/hr that's what is represented on the screen right?
     
    petesky, Dec 10, 2013
    #53
  14. TheDyingScotsman

    TheDyingScotsman Hardcore Simmer

    I know! I was just kidding :) I'd just like things to feel faster not actually move faster, I was just being silly ;)
     
    TheDyingScotsman, Dec 10, 2013
    #54
  15. petesky

    petesky Simracer

    haha...so which sims/games do you think have a good sense of speed?
     
    petesky, Dec 10, 2013
    #55
  16. TheDyingScotsman

    TheDyingScotsman Hardcore Simmer

    iRacing does it pretty well as does rFactor...but physics wise they are inferior to AC imo :)
     
    TheDyingScotsman, Dec 10, 2013
    #56
  17. Digital Aura

    Digital Aura Racer

    I don't see why this can't very simply be addressed by adding motion blur. A simple adjustable slider in the options for peripheral motion blur would be the answer. No one is disputing the accuracy of the track or the parts of the car interior that are in focus. Nor are we saying that in real life the objects outside should be moving past us faster... we're just saying the "SENSE" of speed isn't there - and I'm advocating the use of more motion blur.
    Typically in more arcade style racers (NFS) this is done by creating gradient blur - more blur to close objects (like curbs, lines and nearby trees) and less to further objects (like more distant trees, billboards, landscapes).
     
    Digital Aura, Dec 10, 2013
    #57
  18. ir Sindaco

    ir Sindaco Alien

    Reading through the thread shows plenty of exceptions, then. From what i can understand, it all comes down to personale taste, settings and hw setup (and yes, i have triples and i bought them just to have a better sim-driving experience: and yes, it works on all sims giving better immersion and sense of speed).
    I am not saying you are wrong, but i can't say you are totally right as well: frankly i don't see what devs could do to help in this "issue".
     
    ir Sindaco, Dec 10, 2013
    #58
  19. BlueSkies

    BlueSkies Rookie

    It's just that motion blur is unavailible with a triple screen setup.
     
    BlueSkies, Dec 10, 2013
    #59
  20. TheDyingScotsman

    TheDyingScotsman Hardcore Simmer

    Motion blur for one thing deteriorates performance and secondly, only add some blur (DUH) not sense of speed.
     
    TheDyingScotsman, Dec 10, 2013
    #60
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