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Some restrictor research

Discussion in 'Chit Chat Room' started by WallyM, Dec 31, 2017.

  1. Neilski

    Neilski Alien

    Good - Aki always needs lots of ballast! :D

    Oh gosh, rather surprising that the curves are so different in shape! I assumed it could only be related to the shapes of the torque curves until I actually looked at your curves and the variations between them didn't look... I dunno, entirely correlated with the restrictor behaviour... o_O

    [Edit: would be interesting to note the AI up-shift RPM for each car, and perhaps see if it varies (a) with gear and (b) with restriction. I'd guess probably "yes" for (a) and "no" for (b)...]

    Btw, the AC built-in powergraph looks somewhat different to the CM one for the 599XX Evo - see pic below. [Edit: maybe it's just that the built-in curve isn't using the correct max RPM value, unlike CM which probably reads it directly from the engine INI file.]
    upload_2017-12-31_23-15-22.png
     
    Last edited: Jan 1, 2018
  2. Stereo

    Stereo Alien

    See, this is why the quadratic changes make sense to me as a top end restriction:

    [​IMG]
    If you look at a nice linear power curve like the Zonda has, then limiting it to, say, 40% less than max HP cuts out a triangle of power - the change in area under the curve is what leads to lap times being quadratic, as the area of that triangle is 1/2*rpm*power


    [​IMG]
    Then for the 458, If it's based on percentage of the max power, it could end up being something like this - so for the first range of restriction, it's acting over a fixed amount of rpm, meaning the overall lap time loss is ~3000*power, and you just get a linear change.

    I drew these to both reduce the same amount of power at 40% + 20% restrictors, not to match the actual curves of the cars though.
     
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  3. Neilski

    Neilski Alien

    I like that idea, @Stereo - sounds plausible in terms of what's going on.
    I've finished a very half-baked check on the 599XX Evo case, with just two runs so far - 0% and 100% restrictor.
    First comment: 100% is not quite enough restriction to change the optimal upshift RPM to something lower than the limiter (very nearly enough though).
    The (I repeat, half-baked) power and torque curves for those two cases are shown in the plots below. [Edit: effective power in this case is my not-fully-corrected power-to-tarmac figure.]
    upload_2018-1-1_1-9-45.png
    upload_2018-1-1_1-10-6.png
     
  4. Stereo

    Stereo Alien

    Hmm, that looks like 33% power loss at 9000 rpm, about 10% at 4000... so I guess it is triangular, but extends a lot further down the power curve. Maybe to 0% at idle, or at 0rpm?
     
  5. Neilski

    Neilski Alien

    Mmm, could be. I need to muck around a little bit more with the data to let me divide one curve by the other - will do that later (and also attempt to extend the data to lower RPM for fun).
     
  6. Neilski

    Neilski Alien

    OK, have generated a basic pic with the fractional power (or torque) available at 50% and 100% restrictor vs. RPM.
    It's awfully linear-looking ;)
    (Can't really get much lower in revs cos the auto-clutch kicks in.)
    upload_2018-1-2_0-28-41.png
     
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