The inconsistency in FFB levels really lets AC down

It took me less than half an hour to dial in my new wheel, and only takes a few seconds to adjust per car when using the FFB app. How in the world are some of you making it out to be something difficult?

 

Well this thread has now come full circle, we have people complaining that the FFB is too similar in every car and that it's too different in every car. It's almost like you need a per-car adjustment to please everyone.

 

Hopefully if Atle implements "Auto" mode, we wouldn't even need to bother adjusting FFB gain.
https://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/i...-clipping-tool-v3-4.14165/page-37#post-644195

 

So... differences you can see/feel in real cars as well?

^ This...

...and ^This

Make a good use of https://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/force-feedback-anti-clipping-tool-v3-4.14165/ ,learn what your wheel can do, and it's: +, +, +, -, and you're done in few seconds.

 

Isn't the generated signal and therefore clipping is the same regardless of the wheel used, or AC have different gain for different wheels, which I haven't experienced in practice as moving from one wheel to another did not affect my custom FFB gain settings.
So I guess question "why it's clipping/super weak out of the box" is perfectly valid.

 

I'm convinced making the per-car adjustment value more visible in the game would cut down the number of support questions, complaints, etc exponentially. Seems like more than half of it.

 

No if your wheel starts internally clipping after it has put out 1 N m or torque, instead of 4. It's going to be "super weak" no matter what, and the detail is the first thing to go when you push the wheel beyond that point.

 

Let's forget about hardware clipping at the moment as this is not topic of this discussion. The clipping value displayed in the game is signal, i.e. software level clipping, correct?

 

So when the software ffb is clipping, all the forces signal isn't useful any more, no matter the wheel right? For example when software ffb is clipping, all you get is a straight line signal instead of all the variances between the car and the road?
Although in reality, getting some software clipping won't impact your driving as usually is just a brief moment, but at least for our logitech, thrustmaster, fanatec wheels at 100% gain, we shouldn't get the inconvenient part of the software ffb clipping, considering there are clipping moments where is unavoidable.

This seems an interesting post about linear ffb: https://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/i...-really-lets-ac-down.30935/page-3#post-644501
Could this benefit people with the popular wheels and the ones with the expensive ones, DD wheels?
This is a quote from that linked post: "I presently have a small Mige OSW at 20nm of tq. My ffb signal still clips if all forces are set to 100% in game. It doesn't matter that my wheel outputs 20nm which should be plenty for every car in AC. If I use the ffb clip app and adjust cars based on what it says I still need to adjust GT3 cars down to 60-70% to avoid clipping- Just as with my accuforce wheel, as well as my CSW V1. This is the software clipping."

 

SimCommander has a Clipping meter function and Visual Lap Anylizer to help identify clipping and can even help point to specif effects that may be clipping. The built-in wizard can provide pre-sets that avoid clipping too. I really should take a closer look at these as I have always tuned FFB by feel and run AC FFB at about 70%, maybe lower.

 

This will explain it better than I can. (Part 1.) http://isiforums.net/f/showthread.p...-for-rFactor-2-The-key-to-being-in-the-Zone-D

 

Great article tommi, exactly what I was trying to say

The signal strength expressed in percentage does not change based on the wheel used. When it exceeds 100% we have software level (signal clipping), and it is the same regardless the wheel used.

 

They're trying to wind you up, Michael. You know....for a laugh

 

Yes, only the strenght (N m produced) changes per FFB wheel.

 

I just wonder if we all are playing the same game sometimes.

 

If you can live with an approximation, that's fine. But I want optimum FFB without clipping in every car, so I have to go through the procedure I described above. No need to make fun of it MH...

 

Guess im too stupid for FFB clip app Never quite understood what should i start with, and then what to change, car specific percentage or in the main menu..

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If I get what I asked for I can fully automate the app so even stupid people like you can have proper ffb, Boris! ;-)

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Even with a ";-)" that wasn't cool, ;-)

 

I still love you, man!

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