Tuners wanted! Share your setups.

As I have a tendency to be on the creative side. Like several creative folks here on AC I have made several skins that are posted for all to use, and as time goes on there will be more. All these creative people sharing their hard work is just awesome.
Now I do not see a similar thing happening with the "Tuners" Yes every one drives a little differently and the tune will have to be adjusted for the driver, but a base tune for a track is a good start.
We have an excellent painter Bailey who has a great A Guide to Skin Modding
Maybe a "Tuner" or two could do the same. There is "Telemetry" data that a non tuner can show to a tuner and this could be a start point for some guidance.
TUNERS I CHALLENGE YOU! to get a thread or even a section in the forums to rival the
Car models and skins modding
Update:
Well so far the great folks here on the AC forum have been a great help and have pointed me to some informative documents you can find them in my "Useful Documents folder" on my Google DRIVE

 

Yes there are lots of generric setup guides out there but for my "tune" deprived brain it is all too much. Start simple with a simple car Abath 500 on a simple track Vallelunga Club circuit and build from there. I will do some laps and then post my telemetry, I think there is a nKPro file that someone can look at in AIM

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So far, not a bad idea...but..there is a problem. Each driver has a different style of driving. I tried this so many times, to drive with a setup from a different driver, but it never works. To build a setup, just follow this steps:

1. Change the gears fitting to the track
2. learning the car and track
3. learning the car and track
4. learning the car and track
...

After let`s say 50 - 100 laps and you have the feeling you can`t beat up your PB, than it`s time to have a look into your setup. Start with the aero and tyre temps and than try to understand what happens wrong with yor car`s steering (understeering/oversteering) and so on...

Maybe a setup guide (Source: http://iracing.invisio.nl) could help for the very first steps.

 

agreed, a setup is a way to get the car to feel as you want. Some drive absolutely brilliant on the standard setups, while some change everything.
A setup made by person X will most likely suck for person Y.

But for me personally i find the 500 Difficult to set up since it is a low power FWD car. So understeer is always present

 

Absolutely! one setup from X is not necessary good for Y but I believe there is a bad basic setup and a good basic setup for a track is a first logic step.
Ok maybe a FWD is not a good start, what do you recommend the BMW M3 E30 or is this already too complicated to start from.

 

I think what is best to recommend is, start on the basic setup, that's how i do it, and i believe many others, try to get many laps as consistent as you can.
Only then can you begin to work on setups, you first have to know the car and track.
For example, bumpy, Off camber corners. High speed priority or many slow speed corners. All those and many other factors play into how you want a setup made.

Maybe i don't understand the premise of this thread thou but i never really believe in 1 setup to rule them all.
Its a floodgate for many many whine threads

 

Maybe the thread name is not quite right. May be it should be "
Tuners wanted! Share your setups and the reasoning behind what you have done for the track and car.
What my plan is going forward is run a number of laps getting to a point where I am getting consistent times, then do some setup changes one at a time to see if the average time improves. Then make my conclusions.
Tuners are welcome to point me in the right direction and coach me (and others) in the direction of understanding tuning.

 

Ah so basicly, if i understand ( sorry am a bit slow on sundays ) This is meant as a "How to do setups" more then a general place to dump setups in.
To that i agree, any additional info is welcome, but this is some very technical stuff.

I can get to grips with Tire pressures, basic aerodynamica and suspension geometry setups, but Still learning Damper, spring and rebound settings alike.
Basicly Suspension is still a very much grey area for me since every change you make to the geometry changes how the suspension works. Even Tire pressures.

Still, once you have nothing to learn, you are dead

 

This could be an interesting read. I know generally what I like a car to feel like, but don't really know how to achieve it. Of course each car is unique and should be. And also, its easy for someone less experienced like myself to think fiddling is the way to fast times when in fact more seat time is what's needed. Anyway, I look forward to reading what skilled tuners have to say about the cars we have.

 

Getting to know the car first is key. Driving the stock car and driving it well getting to know its tendencies on the limit get in the car toss tires on it maybe adjust the psi of tires and go do 10 20 laps in it.

Then sit down and think can i adjust to the cars needs or should i adjust to my needs, maybe i like a car with mountains of turn in grip and a back end that like to slide. i up the toe and camber on front wheels maybe soften the suspension some, i want the acceleration grip in back i dial out the camber and toe, and stiffen things up. cars jittery at speed i maybe add some opposite camber for straight line stability.

really any stock setup should be able to hit near the top times its just a question how much time your willing to put into a car and your natural ability some have a much better handle going from car to car type and driving different styles of cars than others. only thing should really matter is bad tire psi and no grip, and aero if a car has enough to matter. beyond that just driving a car the way its designed to be driven and it will go plenty fast.

 

Maybe "Setup information/help needed" would be more reasonable, because a tuner (from my point of view), is someone who change parts of a car. We`re talking about driver and their car setup`s...?

 

i agree.
Tuner are people who put spoiler on their ugly old bmw to decrease the overall looking and feel cool with it /irony off
He needs setup guides or presetted setups.

 

Nice input there Scott, thanks for your insight

 

The hardest thing about setting up a car is being able to feel what the car doing and transfering that to what you want the car to do by altering setup aspects..

Setting up a car is relativly easy when you know what everything does.. What you need is a base to start from..


First thing i do is drive the car stock and see how it handles, if its not neutral i will alter the shocks until it becomes more balanced then i will just start tweaking it but always making note of the tyre temps and alter accordingly.

 

Thanks this is the kind of thing I am looking for, Funny you mention about tyre temp, last night I was putting in several laps on Silverstone International and noticed that the left tyres were 10-20° warmer than the right, front left a bit hotter than the back. Also the pressure was "red" (but that was pretty much from the start, stock setting - maybe the "Dashboard" telemetry is miss reading? ) why is that and what do you do about it. I guess the left is hotter than the right due to all the right corners and therefore the car is leaning on the left.

 

Here are those 2 PDF's that people uploaded, and i'll post them here. Something to read and get a feel for.

 

now do have the "RD Setup" but not the rFactor .
Thanks. This is all a lot of stuff to wrap ones head around. One step at a time and we will get there

 

Yeah im struggling with the page where bumps, rebounds, springs etc are. There are sometimes so many values that its hard to grasp.

 

Well I hope that's where this thread can help, Once we get to understand our cars and what they are doing (track time for us ) then if we can not solve the issues we can ask the kind folk's here what to do and then we can get a better understanding. I know that in some circumstances it is not always obvious (what would seem logical to the inexperienced ) a single tweak on X will fix problem A.

 

if you think about it.. the outside wheel in this case the left has to travel much faster to keep so there is more friction so it warms up.

best thing to do is run 10 laps then see what the temps are, then lower the pressures until they are all pretty much the same after 10 laps.. then you have a look at the temps across the it, they need to be pretty equal across the tyre.