What Do You Think About Dirty Driver and How To Deal With That?

first : okay, AC is a my first original game i bought. before I bought AC, I just play offline or offline competition with my friend. I never play racing online before (what do you expected from pirate :v and yes I don't have too much money to buy the original one=x=)


topic : After look some video about dirty racer in online I wondering why they're do something like that? That's because lag or their nature? how to deal with dirty drive like that and what the difference Aggresive Driver with Dirty Driver? because I think they're different.

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ps : please don't make a some "fanboy" wars like "because player in **** is noob"

 

NetKar Pro is like $5.... I think you can afford it. Though there are not many people playing on it, a few friends try to play on Thursday nights.

 

I wish NetKar Pro was on steam too. It would be a lot easier for me to buy it.
But anyway, I can only see two reasons for them to do that. They just wanna see the world burn or just want to win at all costs. That is surely very different of an agressive driver. An agressive driver will try to force you to make a mistake by your own or try to force an overtake on you. Wrecking others on purpose is ilegal manuever and nothing to do with driving techniques (with some exceptions).
Anyway I expect to see a lot more clean races and sportsmanship on AC. I'm not an experienced driver myself and I think we don't need to be experts to have fun, but we don't need to ruin other's fun too.

 

I say mostly it's because the drivers are bad.

Driving in a group at high speeds through tight corners under hard braking with drivers on all sides of you is really super hard. It's something that honestly can not be underestimated. I've been trying really hard to prepare myself for MP with the AI, and even after weeks of practise I still fail a lot. Messing up the braking zones, stupid overtakings, bumping from behind.... I do so many things, not because I'd enjoy it but because it's insanely hard not to.

I don't think there is a single person who would enjoy crashing more than racing. I do, however think, that -many- will try racing at first, fail, go to the last place and start trolling. Because for some most crashing can be more fun than driving half a lap behind the pack. They will drive without proper practice or skills, underestimating the difficulty of actual racing, fail for a time, and than maybe even just quit altogether.

One way for *you* to avoid that is to enter only races with qualifying. That way you can be placed together with skilled people. So even if the beginners clash you at least get to start with people of equal skill. Although, hot lap speed =/= race skills...

 

I've put some races into GT6 and everytime I try my best to race as clean as possible, like someone said before sometimes little bumps or touches happens but not too hard in my case, and sometimes I just let the thorttle off cause don't know what the guy ahead me will be doing so I just keep a "safe zone" to not make we both in trouble. IMO clean races need to comes first from "u'all", since you think like this "I'm not here to bump/crash (crazy moves or stupid overtakes) anyone nor "race to win at all cost" I'm here to have fun and race, if i'm fast I'll pass everyone."

when I spent time on MP, I ever think in that way.

 

The best to stop with this type of "racers" will be to have a SAFETY RACE option in game ................People will learn a lot

 

That's pretty much what I expect from online racing unfortunately. Unless it's iRacing above rookie level.

With ACs physics it'll be even worse, damage will make things even more exciting....You think everyone's going to practice for 100 hours or more before going online? People will just select the T125, a track they've never seen and go for it, with predictable results.

 

I would say: every lap/turn/overtake you complete gives you safety points. every off track/contact loses you points (depending on how much speed difference the contact is). This is how cargamd eos it in LFS. I must say that is the best I have seen to this date

 

Its still a videogame. Videogames are mostly played by younger folks and a wide range of people that dont spent their whole free time with games or one game, so they get practice, me included (without them their would be far less purchases, mind you and they paid like everyone else).

So its basicly the same with Battlefield or Arma so you can play the game the right way: You need friends or a community, where only people are tolerated, who drive fair and on a fitting skill-level, at least as long you dont get a system like in IRacing.
So you play with folks, that care about the other players and dont just for themeselves.

Second its good to train to react properly to bumps etc.. Often they dont happen on purpose and even good and fair players.

 

Thanks for the opinion mate

Ah.. still saving money for DLC and Headset =x=

after read your explanation about Aggresive Driver, I think more look a like they're =x=

Yes me too, I expect lot a clean races, sportmanship,and tight races on AC

Thanks for the advice, Iquite bad in hotlapping and if I in not my pace I can quite aggressive
Yes sometimes really fun crashing than racing itself, but to be honest I think we can't allow troller do as they want like your say can't give they're chance to make he make a some crash (except he's crashing himself or he's on Destruction Derby )

I agree with what you think, "just let throttle off cause don't know what the guy ahead we doing next" even if it make our lap time is little bit slower at least we're both save.

SAFETY RACE? like a penalty system? or automatic get kick if we doing too much illegal thing?

Yes I know, with AC physics we can expect Formula Derby or GT Derby if they're just randomly pick car without know they limit.
no they're won't, even me just try to mastering the GT class + some Road car
I think at least even we randomly pick the car at least we know where the limit, that's will be save us (at least make more minimum chance) to crashing one and each other.

 

Pirate AC, doing that to any game/simulator is just wrong. If you really want to find out how good or bad a program is then get the demo. To earn enough money get a job, clean some cars, do some gardening, window cleaning or take peoples dogs for walks, it will take no time to save the cash. KitrinosKat, NetKar it is going to be developed in Steam if people vote it through on the greenlight Here.

As for dirty racing I think it has been said by all here, the problem is the grey areas. You know when you have a dirty racer over a new comer, wreckers are the lowest of the low and I hope that we have the admin controls easily at hand for those that will be running dedicated servers.

 

Race in a organised league, its the only sure way to have a great online race and its a heck of a lot of fun.

 

Race 07 is brilliant for 'tapping' off and door to door leaning.
As long as you know who you are against and what they will do in response all is OK, just like in the real thing.
It also add's lots to the game with decent physics and recovery.

 

That depends on the game aswell. I for one don't understand that, it's like you have to learn the track all over again to know where you can cut corners lol. I once had a race in LFS with some of the GP cars 5 laps fighting for 5th and 6th wheel to wheel, bumping slightly into eachother, correcting eachother not to slide away lol. Best race I ever had.

On grid we do a thing we called "YOLO Series" Which is 9 drivers driving Derby car and 3 Wreckers that drive anything they want, it is fun! But you know we agree on it before we do it and it is friends collected into one lobby.

 

Yep. It's a case of join a private league and hope they're sufficient in numbers and close enough in ability to offer an actual race (and also not a shower of idiots), or get out of Rookie on iRacing. Leaving multiplayer entirely to the community means pick-up racing in AC will consist of two months worth of bumper cars followed by tumbleweed.

 

Offagain, you off again! I can assure you there are places to race that will not be like that. Yes you will always get the odd tap/accidents in races, it's part of racing look at the start of the F1 race in Australia to see that even some the best racers in the world have big wrecks. As for the tumbleweed, I very much doubt that if the netcode is as good as AC is as a sim.

 

I was talking about pick-up racing. Unless Kunos do something pretty daft, I agree entirely that we'll see a decent enough league-and-private scene using it, especially once a few more tracks show up.

The tumbleweed point relates explicitly to pick-up. As in, "click multi-player, find race, race". When multiplayer shows up there'll be a ton of open sessions on there, full of players. We'll have people hosting newbie-specific stuff, open events will be plastered all over these forums, and getting a race of some sort will be easy.

Move it on a couple of months and the AC-specific leagues will start to crystalise, some existing setups will be running it along with their current content, groups of mates will be heading off to their private servers, and the patience required by the altruistic newbie-session types will be running low. Couple that with the appearance of the early mods and the number of populated, instantly usable "click multi-player, find race, race" servers will drop off considerably.

I'm certainly not saying that multi-player will die off. I'm merely expressing an opinion that the issue of persistent wreckers is something of a moot point because a substantial number of drivers will handle the problem in the traditional way, which is to move rapidly away from providing and using readily accessible servers and deal with the real problem elements by banning them.

 

This will be answered in the future, let's hope that it is not the case and that the beauty and skills needed to race these cars really does take commitment and time. Then again I am sure there will be guys that jump on just for a few laps now and again for a relaxing treat, people that race hard and fair when life allows and then there will be the guys that never sleep, race everyday all day and really suck, but they will love the immersion and commitment by Team Kunos to make the best simulator available.

Don't worry yet though OA, I'm sure we will find a good race somewhere somehow.

 

Class A Road iRacer and have been crashed out by idiots plenty of times. It is a misconception that iRacing is full of safe drivers. Most think if they can get to your back bumper it's OK to do a Dale Sr move on you.

 

It's called iRacing for a reason. i be Racing get out of my way!