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Assetto Corsa Competizione - 2020 Generic discussion

Discussion in 'ACC General Discussions' started by dave967, Oct 22, 2019.

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  1. martcerv

    martcerv Alien

    Been a while since I played PC2 but it was pretty bad in single class so it should be easily as bad in multiclass. :p

    I am not one for SP racing really but I would hope custom races or a custom championship could be run in multiclass. Just as in MP we will most likely run a full multiclass British season asap.

    In the official seasons and races in SP it makes sense these would only be in the classes that race but if even the ICGT races in ACC dont use the extra cars added seems an odd decision.

    It seems fairly clear they arent going to add multiclass to not have to add it to UI and results. In this regard same as custom races or server setup I think if AacC allowed many more options beyone what the real series run it would help more people setup sessions as they like.

    Even these are massively crippled atm both mp and sp. You cant even run race rules in a public server. A custom race you cant run a 2hr race without a 30 min max stint (you couldnt in 1.3x I havent tried 1.4 there)
     
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  2. vlado Cro

    vlado Cro Simracer

    Don't know if any of u watch 24H portimao?
    I'm happy about gt world return on track,but i just hope entry list will not be compromised a lot like in 24H series.
     
  3. Racerooom does Muticlass well
     
  4. Sentry87

    Sentry87 Gamer

    Kind of a shame no multiclass racing in singleplayer once the GT4 pack releases. HOWEVER, not sure if anyone noticed the limited amount of GT4 entries in this years Bathurst 12 hours and lack of GT4 cars in other IGTC races in 2019. IGTC is becoming more of a GT3 championship.
     
  5. dek

    dek Racer

    Cause the business model isn't as expected...so entrys are missing out.
     
  6. LATE4APEX

    LATE4APEX Alien

    And yet,... there is no mention of GT4, only GT3, in the past or current marketing, that I can find, let alone,... "already have all the content there, paid for it".

    So I would think there is no reason to expect mixed grids, especially in SP.

    Except maybe if Kunos can make magnitude advances in AI, which I think unlikely.

    Assuming I'm reading your post correctly.
     
  7. rnavasg

    rnavasg Gamer

    Just a small reflexion from my lack of knowledge in programming. Aren't mixed grids with GT3s overtaking GT4s similar situations as the current blue flags?, they managed to address this issue, so shouldn't it be a kind of a similar scenario?
     
  8. martcerv

    martcerv Alien

    I think the current AI blue flags in races are massively overdone. They pull over like you should only in a qualy lap if your not on a valid lap. In races under blue flags at most AI should not defend. Currently they slow 50% or more off regular pace and can be quite hard to predict. They slow way off line and as you get alongside almost want to fight again even though they are too slow and off line.

    Blue flags in race rules for the real series are just an indicator that your about to be lapped. Its not like f1 where you must concede position in x amount of corners or get a penalty. I rarely race AI but did 1 race last week and thought AI was pretty poor in race with blue flags.
     
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  9. pankykapus

    pankykapus KS Dev Team Staff Member KS Dev Team

    It doesn't matter how complicated you think it is. ACC's singleplayer has no multiclass element, BP/GTWCh and IGT are GT3 only, GT4 ES will be GT4 only in the game and British GT is a track-only DLC.
     
  10. Coanda

    Coanda Alien

    @pankykapus - I have different question that maybe you can or want to shed some light on. Will there be any future development to the current Ai behavior regardless of class..?

    ... a simple yes, no or maybe would be great..
     
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  11. Epistolarius

    Epistolarius Alien

  12. SimGuy_1

    SimGuy_1 Alien

    I personally don't care about A.I tbh.
    If anything A.I is restricting the amount of resources available to simulate complex physics of cars.
    in other words kunos could have inserted even more detailed for example tyre physics if they didn't have to consider that all these complex stuff has to run with 20+ A.I
    I have internet that has max speed of 900kb/s and i live in extremely small city and still i enjoy online at 150-200 ping.
    If Iracing has so many people paying for online only i don't think that this market has any problem with no A.I online only racing.
    TBH A.I never gives me same adrenaline,fear of a human opponent behind me even if he is slower.
     
  13. Gopher04

    Gopher04 Simracer

    Well many of us do care about AI..
     
  14. sissydriver

    sissydriver Alien

    @Coanda - afair in last stream "the" dev said, nothing important incoming / planned regarding the ai
     
  15. LATE4APEX

    LATE4APEX Alien

    I really don't think anything "important" is needed, just correct /improve upon what is existing concept, of simulating real racing.
     
  16. sissydriver

    sissydriver Alien

    @LATE4APEX - okay, to be precise, nothing that would be noticeable, maybe lost in translation a little bit, sorry for that
     
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  17. Coanda

    Coanda Alien

    Yeah I also picked up on that.. I am just hopeful that this area of development is not wrapped up. I agree with LATE4APEX, nothing major is needed and I enjoy driving them as they are today. Just some tweaks on a couple of problematic corners here and there that have had issue threads raised and a little more alignment to real world times on a couple of the tracks that are out would be greatly appreciated..
     
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  18. LATE4APEX

    LATE4APEX Alien

    No prob's, I think my post was actually not too clear.
     
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  19. Talking about AI, at 80% in Laguna Seca, in the first corner of the first lap, sometimes some cars stops, and always the normal speed around the corner is 40 Km/h, would love it being checked
     
  20. Coanda

    Coanda Alien

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