Are there too many cars in AC?

What a silly thread, too many cars? Really?

 

If the engine/physics model is findamental in the game, my understanding is, it will only need a minor tweaking for most cars.

So bring MOAR cars in da game, I say! McLaren F1 is A must!

I've driven every car in the game and it's all but natural to like some more then others.

 

More RWD/super powered cars Why?

 

No. There's NOT too many cars in game. It's just the ratio of tracks vs cars is off. Need more tracks.
Never would I ever say there's too many cars in game. I still grandiose other cars being in this amazing simulation.
I also Grandiose a laser scanned Tsukuba, and there are tons of talented track modders out there that can lend a hand.

 

I think a lot of people only read the "no more cars" bit and replied with their thoughts without either reading or understanding what Wally said.

The question really is do we want slower updates to AC but ensure all cars are equal and at the same point in development or do we want to see faster patch releases understanding that some cars will not have the new features implemented.
Ultimately it's a question only the devs will answer and from past patches we know they would rather have some cars with new features then wait for all the cars to be the same A good example was the patch where cars had V5 and V7 tyres.

There are right now 112 cars a "minor tweak for most cars" requires I bet a fair bit of work.
Add in a "major tweak" as you say and you have one very busy individual. Take for example the tyre models where we had cars on V5 and V7 at one point or the brake temps or the physics there are lots of cars at different stages of development. In a perfect world you would have all the cars at the same level of development but we often can't have that because I assume it's impossible to keep up.

A league might decided it's unfair to have cars on different versions so that might then limit the cars they race with because some prefer them all to be at the same level of development.

Would you run a league race knowing that one car has brake temps and the other doesn't? Probably not so that then splits the choice of cars you can race with.

 

now it's correct

(wrong wheel drive)

 

If the number of cars in a racing game is more important to someone than the accuracy of the physics model, then Assetto Corsa is not for them.

 

Exactly this. Very few posters actually read or understood the point of the post. IMO there are more than enough cars and if it means uneven or lagged updates, then forget adding cars, I'd rather have enhancements. To all those that scream for more cars, how many are you ACTUALLY driving regularly? I would bet no more than 5-8. Where are all the servers at for F40's, BMW 1M, Pagani, Miura, etc. Hardly anyone is using even 10% of the cars.

 

Yeah, I stop reading threads after the first few posts. People don't even read the OP, only the thread title.

 

Because ... THE CAR!
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I red the OP, all posts and so forth.
So what?
Faster updates or more cars?
I say both.
What is wrong with people willing to have BOTH more cars and faster upgrades?

Or OP is saying ... he/she KNOWS that ... for REAL ... that there is an issue?

So are we looking for some kind of excuse or we are just talking?

If an update is postponed ... it's not the end of the world, as long as we have the valid reasons.
I'll gladly wait for a bit for even more decent optimization, even more better physics ... on ALL cars, new and old.
Test physics on some cars is 1 thing.
Having 30% cars on 1 version of tires and 70% on another was not great.

If we have feedback what is going on and what will be the direction, though I don't see an issue, even if something will take more time.

 

But do you think if they werent adding content that generates more value they would spend time developing the game further. The only reason development continues is because it goes hand in hand with new content updates so stop adding cars and you stop the updates too as they wouldnt be worth their time doing it for nothing.

 

@ Marty

That's a good point and having new content trumps everything else I guess, having to wait a while for everything to be equal I don't think is a bad trade off. I haven't raced with XGN in a while but did you guys exclude cars because of differences such as tyres or other stuff?

 

We always pick cars that are fairly competitive and have never came across cars on different builds and at times updates happen mid season so not much you can do if that happens.

Its only really street cars that have at times been on varied tyre versions as Kunos generally update all in the same classes together. I think in the gt86 season the tyre model changed in that quite a bit during the season or just before but it was a single car season so it had no real effect.

 

There are far more cars already than I can frequently drive. Because my day has only so and so much time, and not more. You have your favourites you always come back to, you have others that you never touch again because you do not like their characteristics. Choice is good, and most players probably have enough neurons to aid them in the choosing process of what they like and what not.

What looses me completely is the collector's attitude, however. Getting more and more just for the sake of having more.

So, no, for me always more is not always better or essential. More default quality tracks made by Kunos is my preference. I will buy future car packs, to support them, but an urgent craving for any other car pack I feel not. Give me quality tracks that look nice and drive well instead!

 

Nice opinion and good point about the collector attitude. Haha.
And I understand why you wrote that.

When the Japan pack came up I was not in the mood to test new cars. Actually I felt like obliged to test them ... just to tick them in my book and see how they compare to my favorites.

But then again, if this pack was not released ... how can you find about the Toyota AE86 Tuned or the Mazda RX-7 Tuned which are vary fun to drive to me. In game. I know they exist for real ... of course. Haha.

So ... as I said ... I would like both content and tweaks.

 

More cars = recurrent income = recurrent new features.
No cars = no income = end of AC evolution. Only AC2 would be possible but that would take another three years.

Edit: Judging by the car wish list thread, AC will have many new features.

 

I always want more quality cars to drive & battle. With future releases I am hopeful for more race cars. Low HP production cars just don't do it for me. V8SC is my number 1 wish. I do think AC lacks with the number of tracks provided. Lucky the community has lent a hand in this department although I still want more..

 

it's definitely harder to have simulation with 100 cars that are realistic, then if you have "only" 30 cars

 

The only thing I know is there are not enough tracks.
Good track selection is what really makes a racing game live.

 

Without a dev/official elaborating on this subject as an (non)issue I would say this is exactly how rumors get accepted as a reality generally. Half a year from now someone will open a thread asking for car X and several members will jump out of the woodwork saying "first of all read the forum rules, no wishlists and second we already have enough cars. Devs are super stressed at every update causing the world to implode, making simulation value drop" without any official confirmation.
Until then, speculation value is through the roof.
The scope of AC grew a great deal. So did the team and there is room for more. They are in a completely different league now. 100ish cars will just not cut it on consoles and most newcommers who have gotten used to much more than AC number of cars. Yeah leagues will stick around a sim a lot longer than 90% of it's user base, but it's that 90% that keep developers in business in the first place.

These are the reasons I am inclined to say AC absolutely needs MOAR cars even if people drive 8 of em at any given time. Always fun to return to an old flame after having neglected her for a couple months.