Bikes in Assetto Corsa

GP Bikes has a huge potential.
http://www.gp-bikes.com/
Try the demo if you like simulators.
Would love to see some kind of cooperation betwee Kunos and GT Bikes, regarding all aspects including graphics engine, laser scanned tracks, physics, VR support, etc.


Give them a call Setfano

 

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The Dev has a lot in common with Stefano.
the daily development page has a short text and...
http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=2765.330

 

As someone who love riding even more than driving, a good bike SIM would interest me now that we have VR, maybe just using a controler with VR could be a step forward in trying to simulate what riding feels like.
Can someone who is actually a rider recommend a decent VR bike SIM on PC.

 

It actually works with Oculus!
Originally for another title but also works with GP Bikes.
The menus appear on top, but the game runs ok.
http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=3701.0
The developer is involved in many projects.

Edit: Once you get used to it, this is the best VR experience.

 

GP Bikes is awesome and i think the closest to real life bike simulation. Piboso develop great stuff.

 

bike sim could be interesting, but yeah, no way to simulate driver weight transfer, which is what the driving a bike is all about
it could work to a degree, and would be interesting with something like HTC VIVE where you could move around to simulate driver weight shifting .. but yeah, who knows

 

For a professional bike rider body movement is instinctive and associated with the turning action. He doesn't even think about it he just thinks about turning. That's why I don't think it is really important to have that in a controller. To have that in body tracking would be interesting but not in a controller where movement coordination is not so natural.
Bottom line setting body movement to auto seems perfectly ok as it is automatic for a real driver.

 

No bikes please! AC is a car sim, not a bike sim.

 

Its also a flight sim

 

Those are mods, so doesn't count!

 

Once up to speed (above say 10 mph) you don't turn by steering the bars. Well you kind of do but you need to steer the bars left to turn right (counter steer). That is only to help start the lean. Even then you wouldn't consciously think about it.

So basically - like driving a car - we only need 1 axis for steering. The one that makes the most sense for a bike is lean. So lean left to go left (counter steer is assumed to get the bike leaning).

 

I don't think it would happen but it would be awesome to have bikes in AC. Obviously wouldn't work with wheels but would be great with a controller. I'd love to see Kunos re-create the Isle of Man TT

 

Balloons caused a lot of controversy already.
At least they would fly well on AC... you know.. always sunny, no rain... *dodge from bullets*

 

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, No !

 

Is there a controller for bikes ? GP-bikes got me

That Dev has decent taste of music, another good point.

I say AC doesn't need bikes, why should AC take this load on its shoulders, plus take something away from this, check out the features:

http://www.gp-bikes.com/?page=about

Definitelly gotta try, only if there is a bike controller in the market.

 

Yep there is:
https://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/i...rcycles-a-possibility.2567/page-4#post-417208

Also, that comes from a thread that is more or less similar to this one. Everything has already been discussed

 

I also think the complexity of a decent bike sim controller is a major problem. When a bike is controlled through body movements so much then that needs to be captured with g-sensors. Then you'd need something to sit on that will allow all these movements plus you'd want to hold on to a firm lever. I don't see how you could make that work on a reasonable budget and VR is also a must in this case.

How simple is a car sim in comparison! The wheel is just a great interface that allows for simming in the first place.

 

So there isn't any real good bike controller ?

I checked youtube found that there is something incredible, a fully leaning rigs. But that is not for mortals.

But yeah stuff is difficult. Even sitting position makes it worse, and FFB I don't even know what it is for bikes.

I don't think it should be difficult (for big companies) to make handle bar controller which would rotate around horizontal axis simulating the leaning, and having some turn around vertical axis at the same time. If there were real market manufacturers would be doing it.

There is something to do with feet too, right ? (I have no knowledge about bikes)

 

Yep, that's how I think about Milestone bike games (never tried GP Bikes yet). When I race my Triumph for real there is always a compromise between lean angle, brakes and throttle I'm managing, in order to make the best line around the circuit. That balancing act can be simulated on a PC quite well, even with just a decent (sensitive and no deadzone) gamepad. Fighting for position, line choices etc. can all be practiced on PC. The only thing you can't practice is the physical movement, but then we don't get neck strain in our simulated F1 cars either.

Force Feedback is a bit more tricky, but doesn't exists as much on a real bike either (compared to a car). Yes you feel the rear slide, Milestone does this pretty good with the rumble effect on the pad.

Way before AC release I sent them a mail once asking to consider bikes. They have great connections with manufacturers (KTM is present in game, Ducati is owned by Audi these days for example, BMW is present in game...) so getting a handful of sports bikes licenses shouldn't be that terrible hard.

 

Well, it's not like you can lean with leaning over the handlebars. As it's been mentioned, you lean the bike into a corner using counter steering. Body position (is what most people think leaning is) is simply lowering your COG to take the corners faster. And as has been mentioned, too, that's second nature once you ride bikes. So it's not really worth simulating that.

@Stereo once had a bike in game, but I've never been able to drive for more than 20 feet. Physics just don't work as expected on a 2 wheeler, somehow