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Do pop-up lights affect ae86 and miata in the game?

Discussion in 'Chit Chat Room' started by jiaoshouxu, Jul 10, 2017.

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  1. Andy-R

    Andy-R Alien

    Spend the time adding success ballast instead :D :D

    I don't really mind if it gets added or not TBH, I do like driving the 86 with lights popped and would probably still do so in pub races if the effect is very minor. A minor tweak to the T70's drag cost it around a tenth on longish straights, if it is that strong i'll keep em off.
     
    Andy-R, Jul 10, 2017
    #21
  2. Kade

    Kade Hardcore Simmer

    Kade, Jul 10, 2017
    #22
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  3. WallyM

    WallyM Alien

    You'd think the aero effect would be pretty small. It might not be worth it, one way or the other, if the difference is barely noticeable.
     
    WallyM, Jul 10, 2017
    #23
  4. Gevatter

    Gevatter Alien

    I vote yay as well. +1 Simulation value :)
     
    Gevatter, Jul 10, 2017
    #24
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  5. WallyM

    WallyM Alien

    @Lord Kunos
    A bunch of drag info about pop up headlights here:



    The implication is that there's an appreciable increase in drag, in the vicinity of 10%.
     
    WallyM, Jul 10, 2017
    #25
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  6. Schnipp

    Schnipp Alien

    Damn you Wally, I found that video too. :D
     
    Schnipp, Jul 10, 2017
    #26
  7. WallyM

    WallyM Alien

    LOL, Lord Kunos has probably watched it years ago :)
    Still, interesting stuff.
     
    WallyM, Jul 10, 2017
    #27
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  8. Berniyh

    Berniyh Alien

    Some older cars had adjustable mirrors such that the whole attachment moved.
    I suspect if those are taken into account and if adjustable mirrors are there at some very distant moment in the unforeseeable future, people will adjust their mirrors to add/remove downforce/drag as well. :D
     
    Berniyh, Jul 10, 2017
    #28
  9. Jadonyx

    Jadonyx Hardcore Simmer

    Yay, of course. So that we can parry rain and night games fanatics with phrase "but you dont have air drag when your lights are up" :D
    What is better that features? More features.
     
    Jadonyx, Jul 10, 2017
    #29
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  10. Radfahrer

    Radfahrer Hardcore Simmer

    Try me, good Sir .
    If I need light, I´ll POP ma lights ... just gotta be quicker in the corners then ^^

    I´d love to see additive aero resi added to AC`s carpool wherever it´s applicable ...
     
    Radfahrer, Jul 10, 2017
    #30
  11. Kade

    Kade Hardcore Simmer

    Yes and VR users absolutely need an ability to duck head down a bit in openwheelers to reduce drag. :p
     
    Kade, Jul 10, 2017
    #31
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  12. Schnipp

    Schnipp Alien

    You want numbers?

    I'll give you numbers!


    RX-7 stock (top speed 287 km/h)
    2017-07-10 15_16_48-Assetto Corsa.jpg

    RX-7 with 8% drag increase (top speed 282 km/h)
    2017-07-10 15_37_41-Assetto Corsa.jpg


    I set the app so that it starts around 5.000 rpm in 3rd, 4th and 5th gear, while the upper limit is just at the ideal shifting point (3rd + 4th) and 250 / 270 km/h in 5th gear (didn't know which one would give better data, so I took both.
    Just so that there are no gear shifts involved. (I'll add some 100-200 and 100-250 later)

    I did each gear with multiple runs and started each run below 4.000 rpm to be sure there's no turbo lag involved. The results were very consistent.

    3rd gear, 100-155:
    5.09s vs. 5.12

    4th gear, 140-220:
    12,91s vs. 13.33s

    5th gear, 180-250:
    20.41s vs. 22.14s

    180-270:
    31.44s vs. 36.18s


    (don't mind the last three entries, I tried to simulate the time loss on a 600m straight that you enter with 90km/h, but the results were to inconsistent and I think the app can be set up in a way this could work)


    EDIT
    100-200 and 100-250 km/h data:

    stock:
    2017-07-10 16_17_33-Assetto Corsa.jpg

    high drag:
    2017-07-10 16_14_12-Assetto Corsa.jpg

    100-200: 11.98s vs. 12.16s
    100-250: 26.52s vs. 27.97s


    I wish I could measure the difference it makes on a straight.
     
    Last edited: Jul 10, 2017
    Schnipp, Jul 10, 2017
    #32
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  13. TDS

    TDS Alien

    YAY!!!!x1000, simulation value over 9000 :D:D:D
     
    TDS, Jul 10, 2017
    #33
  14. quakeguy

    quakeguy Hardcore Simmer

    Yay! Absolutely.
     
    quakeguy, Jul 10, 2017
    #34
  15. Davemester

    Davemester Racer

    please do. Therefore people will go slower in the dark. its dangerous :D :D :D
     
    Davemester, Jul 10, 2017
    #35
  16. Berniyh

    Berniyh Alien

    I doubt it's possible to slow down the Miata some more. :p :D
     
    Berniyh, Jul 10, 2017
    #36
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  17. Andy-R

    Andy-R Alien

    I want to force lights off in the NA MX5 and on in the AE86 to balance the drag on those 2 cars a bit... headlight BoP!!
     
    Andy-R, Jul 10, 2017
    #37
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  18. Mathieu Labbé

    Mathieu Labbé Hardcore Simmer

    I'd say go for it too, unless AC want to stay in the simcade category :p
     
    Mathieu Labbé, Jul 10, 2017
    #38
  19. arthur666

    arthur666 Alien

    Well, they could simulate a failing O2 sensor. Mine's about as fast as a day-old dog turd right now. (Which is not much different than before somehow :p )

    Slow as it is, still one of my favorite cars to drive in AC and IRL.
     
    arthur666, Jul 10, 2017
    #39
  20. Berniyh

    Berniyh Alien

    Didn't say that slow means bad. ;)
     
    Berniyh, Jul 10, 2017
    #40
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