Do pop-up lights affect ae86 and miata in the game?

Me personally in a game where you never actually have to use the headlights I don't see the point. Dev time could be spent elsewhere if you ask me.

 

2 scenarios I use the headlights:
- to have illuminated dials, in many cars the dials are hard to read with lights off
- to flash the headlights to an opponent (lapped drivers, complain about unfair moves)

 

If it were complicated, I'd agree, but Stefano said it's fairly easy, I don't see why not.

 

So if we were racing you would be OK with going slower to see the car gauges, than me who never uses the car gauges and will never have the lights on?

 

One reason I said it's not so important.

And if it adds drag, then I might turn them off.

 

I think it will be really useful in touge racing though....

 

Yes please.

 

I probably don't need to chime in again, but I'd vote yes again. (I kinda have to since I started a thread on the subject a few weeks back, no?) Bear in mind I spend 99.95% of my AC time modding physics and I've never even joined a MP server, so I'm focused heavily on making my cars more realistic and not really at all on MP racing. However, since this almost exclusively effects road cars, I think its impact on "serious" MP racing will be minimal.

 

So, in response to this...

I started thinking about my 944, a pop-up headlight car, and if memory serves it was no different than any other car in that you could turn on the dash/accessory lights without turning on the headlights. Pretty sure those only pop up in the final position... So there's a tidy way to compromise and solve this dilemma: in pop-up headlight cars, make the lights cycle through 3 stages (off/dash lights on/all lights on) rather than just on/off as it is now, with the lights remaining "down" in the first 2 stages. In addition to solving the problem presented here, it adds +1 to everyone's simulation value. We all win.

 

Yes of course. The second position also turns on the parking+tail lights.

I wonder if any manufacturer will ever use pop-ups again? They're a completely pointless and unnecessary complexity, but nostalgia is a powerful marketing tool. I'll bet when kids of the 1980's are old codgers, we will see some. (Hey we're almost there! )

 

I think the two reasons they aren't used any more are drag and crash safety.

Both are really important things for new cars today, so I don't see a chance for them to be used again.
Have a look at the video WallyM posted on the previous page.

 

Thanks for getting involved in the discussion @Lord Kunos , much appreciated

Maybe I am doing something wrong as I haven't heard anybody else mention having this issue:

I have a button bound on my wheel to CRTL+L as I often need to toggle driver names on and back off again during a MP race (if somebody is doing something naughty or just to see who is who).

The problem is that this also toggles the lights on and off (which is the L key). Is it possible to toggle driver names without looking like I am either madly flashing lights at the guy in front or asking the guy behind to pass me? This little niggle also prevents me from supporting adding aero effects to pop up lights, as I am constantly turning them on and off without wanting to; thus I would be unwittingly at an aero disadvantage.

If CTRL+L could toggle driver names without toggling the lights then I would say yes implement it, but as it is I can only implore you not to do so.

 

Change the KB binding for the lights.
But yeah, default setting for driver names and lights is a bit annoying.

 

Doh! For some reason I had it in my mind that those keyboard hotkeys were hard bound, thanks mate