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Discussion in 'Chit Chat Room' started by Minolin, Aug 7, 2015.

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  1. ACJJ619

    ACJJ619 Racer

    What's the minimum number of laps on this to register? I was on an enabled server last night but can't find any data about myself on the website.
     
    ACJJ619, Aug 10, 2015
    #141
  2. Minolin

    Minolin Staff Member KS Dev Team

    you'll need to have > 100 corners driven (when finished the last lap) to be rated.
    Last night I was updating stuff, so maybe you just hit the bad timeframe. Sorry, but this happens while beta.

    The same as now, probably your current sessions aren't recorded.
    @server admins: It's even possible that a plugin won't work on now, maybe check/restart them.
     
    Minolin, Aug 10, 2015
    #142
  3. Stereo

    Stereo Alien

    I've run a few times on your server now, managed to be hit by people late late late braking every race cause it's not 1 guy doing it, it's an entire pack of them. Miss one or two, not enough. As soon as you start to turn in the 3rd or 4th guy slides into the pack hitting people indiscriminately. I guess once the ratings are actually in place they'll start to drop out of the servers, but I predict a rough start with people who are careful getting lots of points too.

    If it wasn't the entire back half of the pack thinking "this looks worth it," you could avoid 1 or 2 guys, but really I think anyone involved should be penalized to discourage people from thinking "I won't be the first 2, so it's fine if I ram someone by being aggressive.", and so they hold back enough to actually avoid being part of it.



    On a completely other note, you should probably tweak your DNS records, "minorating.com" is currently inaccessible, you have to visit "www.minorating.com"
     
    Stereo, Aug 10, 2015
    #143
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  4. Animal Ed

    Animal Ed Simracer

    First taste of your app and I`m pissed off ... no difference between wrecker and victim. 4 contacts in 3 laps but let me describe you contacts to test your opinion that both sides share guilt.
    Contact nr 1: pull aside on start and let the t1 mayhem begin without me. Majority of t1 carnage participants were off track and I was careful not to put car in path of inpatient ones but no luck - one was able to hit me. I suppose that stopping the car and give them 10 seconds would help but ... this supposed to be racing. What was my part of guilt?

    Contact nr 2: car in front of me went out of shape so I slowed down but not the guy behind me. No big deal as it was light contact ... but warning is there. What was my part of guilt?

    Contacts nr 3 and 4: 2 cars collide in front of me and guy behind was too close to react on my lift off. First contact put me deep into corner and second when he used elbowz after he put me deep to take opportunity and pass. What was my part of guilt?

    I know that you have best intentions and, honestly, I wouldn't make fuss of that but ... I left server when I read message to "watch my behavior or face the consequences" ... or something like this.

    Is it any way to detect which part of car was in contact?
    Front end = 90% your guilt; side = 50% ; rear 10%

    btw don't take first part of my post too seriously - needed to release some steam.
     
    Animal Ed, Aug 10, 2015
    #144
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  5. Thomas Gocke

    Thomas Gocke Alien

    Agree with this, people should be encouraged to avoid every incident. They shouldn't get away without incident if the guy they plow into had a contact earlier.

    A no fault system is the only way to go, the guys who cause the incidents will get many more incidents than the innocent guys, so everything works as intended.
     
    Thomas Gocke, Aug 10, 2015
    #145
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  6. Hagen

    Hagen Hardcore Simmer

    It can be frustrating, thats true, but as i have raced you several times i am quite sure, that you will be on the "all is good" side of rating once you finished some races. Dont take the collision count too serious, it is impossible for you to have as much collisions per corner as a wrecker or beginner.
     
    Hagen, Aug 10, 2015
    #146
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  7. TDS

    TDS Alien

    MR not working on ALOOG or Minolin servers since latest update 1.2.3.
    Just reporting.

    Cheers
     
    TDS, Aug 10, 2015
    #147
  8. Minolin

    Minolin Staff Member KS Dev Team

    With the new binaries (beta-5)?
     
    Minolin, Aug 10, 2015
    #148
  9. TDS

    TDS Alien

    idkthe binaries version being used, but i just joined your toyota x bmw nurburgring server and ratings wasnt working.
    T1 was a mess every start. :-(
     
    TDS, Aug 10, 2015
    #149
  10. Jaye

    Jaye Alien

    Finally GCracing servers joined the party :)

    Thx @Minolin for his endless work for the linux guys :D
     
    Jaye, Aug 10, 2015
    #150
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  11. Minolin

    Minolin Staff Member KS Dev Team

    First - sorry if my work ended up beeing frustrating to you. This isn't my intention at all.

    But: I'm glad you came with this. I've heard it in the past, and it will be a hot discussion point after this post: This system is not elitist enough, blablalba.
    Here are some numbers (not including the C* and W*):

    A 298
    B 219
    C 147
    D 114
    W 6

    517 of 784 would currently be in the "A or B" grade. This means that only 35% of the player base is not in the highest grade (you will be able to see).
    Only 120 are "D - unclean" or "W - Wrecker", the both classes you probably want to filter out by the AUTH module until they improved. Only 15%!!1!, some will shout now*. Toothless and stuff.

    But you just experienced why it's so important to be cautious and defensive.


    ----
    * And it can never be more, guys. If we build a system that doesn't work for the way the majority (in terms of >80%) of the customer base that uses the software, there is no justification to let it go live.


    Edit:
    @Jaye The thanks is to @Thomas Gocke , he found the trail
     
    Minolin, Aug 10, 2015
    #151
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  12. snyperal

    snyperal Simracer

    I've noticed a lot more caution at t1 spa lately, ofc you still get the leroy bulldozer method, but i find they drop out before the end of the first lap. nothing beats qualifying in fifth to be looking at the back of the pack at t1. It almost makes me want to start from the pits every time.

    and data collected without a pie chart is meaningless. Mmmm pie.
     
    snyperal, Aug 10, 2015
    #152
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  13. Animal Ed

    Animal Ed Simracer

    I know that this part of your post was not pointed to me as I was cautious and defensive (kind of - from 16th to 4th with only one real overtake on track before left out of fuel in last lap) but can`t help myself ...

    Feeling like billiard cushion and than server message to watch my behavior was just strawberry on top of cream (snyperal, hungry?) ...

    As I said, just to let some steam out here as dog wouldn`t understand and my old lady would shake her head and change the subject to something I have no interest to talk about ...
     
    Animal Ed, Aug 10, 2015
    #153
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  14. Hany

    Hany Alien

    Hany, Aug 10, 2015
    #154
  15. Minolin

    Minolin Staff Member KS Dev Team

    Uh ****. Lol.
    Sorry Animaled, that was my brainfart. I wanted to make the point that I have to be extremly careful and defensive when making the decisions when to warn, when to degrade and so on. While building the system ^^


    For me they do. Still looks good, no worries.

    Edit:
    Now you can also just type /mr or /minorating into the chat in order to get your rating:
    upload_2015-8-11_0-10-16.png

    Just ignore the "you're not admin" messages

    And no, on the long run you won't get more detailed information than what you see there. I still don't want that to be a badge.
     
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2015
    Minolin, Aug 11, 2015
    #155
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  16. martcerv

    martcerv Alien

    Is it possible for admin to also get others minorating by car id.

    /MR 2

    Example for car 2. Would be nice if it could link up with ptracker and show all drivers MR. If nothing else it could help show who you need to be more wary of or keep an eye on.
     
    martcerv, Aug 11, 2015
    #156
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  17. Minolin

    Minolin Staff Member KS Dev Team

    It will be, but first the Grades have to make sense at all.
    I've already created an interface that can be consumed in an pyhton app (standalone or included in pTracker/ferito's live tracking). But it's not the time yet, sorry ;)
     
    Minolin, Aug 11, 2015
    #157
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  18. martcerv

    martcerv Alien

    I didnt mean it needs to be done asap, drop the coffee and start coding etc. ;)

    Just more a future version suggestion, beta stage really doesnt matter as its all just being tested.
     
    martcerv, Aug 11, 2015
    #158
  19. Christopher Low

    Christopher Low Alien

    I think this proves that those guys who are reporting no contacts at all (or hardly any contacts) in their reports are either completely clear of the pack at all times, or are not trying hard enough. By the latter, I mean that they are deliberately avoiding situations where multiple cars are in close proximity. Zero contacts over multiple races simply isn't realistic.
     
    Christopher Low, Aug 11, 2015
    #159
  20. Racert46

    Racert46 Simracer

    Sorry but that is just not true, I for example did most of my laps at aloog server that runs the GT2 at spa on a Saturday with full 24 cars grids. I see you racing there as well.
    Most of the time starting in the top 10. The only contact I got was from behind at turn 1.
    I raced like I normally do not deliberately avoiding situations where multiple cars are in close proximity.
    Just drove my laps in a manner that is respectful to others while racing for positions. Its called Racing etiquette.

    So maybe i was lucky and had a great group of racers in the server at that time, i do have other experiences at this server in the past but maybe the aloog blacklist and the message showing that you are being watched by minorating made people already race more respectful causing less incidents and that's what we want.

    @Minolin
    Is there a minimum amount cars that need to be on track before it log your progress?
    Otherwise you can easily up your rating by hot lapping in your own empty race server.
     
    Racert46, Aug 11, 2015
    #160
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