The tyre version 5 thread

I have the same problem. I get a peak of not more than 80° on the front left during cornering, other tires are mostly around 55-60. Pushing more doesn't help, the temp goes down again fast on the straights and it's easy to get graining. But I was able to do 2:02 laps on a server yesterday (the one with stracker @ barcelona moto). What is very important now is the pressure, 28psi cold was too low for me so I put it up to 30.

 

After a Nords hotlap I barely see 65C on the RUF RWD... Doesn't sound right to me. Mainly tyres are at 50-60C

 

Yep, same here. But I don't even know exactly what the data is showing. Can't be surface, it's falling and rising too slow for that. For core on the other hand a bit too fast.

 

if you guys are using daniels tyre app, could it be its not collecting data from the new v5 physics.

 

Is there an app which can do that? I thought there's some new values which aren't added to the shared memory (yet). I read my temps and pressures from statsbarplus btw.

 

@GamerMuscle, what you are referring to is the slip effects parameter in FFB settings. If you push that up to insane levels and you still don't feel anything when slamming the brakes on, then something is very wrong. I've always relied on the tyre sounds and unfortunately I can't test this at the moment but I'm sure someone will try it for you.

 

yeah as i said earlier slip with give feedback under braking as you start to lock up and loose traction and under traction loss in a corner.

 

No I am not and as said I have gone through many settings.

With or without slip effect you feel things after you have gone over the limit, so though it lets you know that you have locked the wheels or are in a slide it can not be used to gauge how much grip you have before you get up to the limit as you could before.

You normally have to rely on Tyre sounds alone with most simulators, which is far less involving and less intuitive than being able to feel how much grip you have in the FFB under on and over the limit.

 

I have noticed this as well and as an engineering student I can say it does not make sense even if it was realistic. When designing a car, you put wider wheels to achieve better cooling for the tyres (also taking in consideration all of the car dynamics). I see a design fault if the cars tyres can't reach optimal temp range while hotlapping at a racing circuit. At the moment it feels like tyre heat cooling is a constant, regardless of their temp. The higher the temps are, faster the tyre should transfer heat, so overheating tyre should cool down in relatively short time, but tyre at operating temp (70+) should not.

Even in normal trackdays people pull in pits and measure the inside, middle and outside temps from a tyre to check if the camber values or tyre pressures should be changed. As it is in AC now, your IMO-tyre temps would be exactly the same and even really cold. I don't want to rant, actually I like how the game feels but the tyre temps in a relatively slow street cars surely seems weird at the moment.

 

mine were consistently at about 50-65c last night in the ruf (semis) I wonder if its only v5 or both that need to be looked at, dont think ive driven any v4 since update

 

You all guys are talking about issue I came with on sunday. I got problems with heating up tires in italia and mclaren mp4-12c. Also I found some difficulties with BMW M4 (but its better than mentioned two cars). It is all as u said today. For me, it is not ok. But on the other hand, when I am driving gt86 and countach, temps are really ok. It works as it should. But as I said, IMO there is something wrong with some cars and theirs temps.

If u want to check temp, use dev app. Enable dev apps in assetocorsa config file and use i.e. suspension app.

 

Having the same problem with the merc 190e rears temps are alright can get them to 75 with correct ideal pressure 39 but the front's will not go past 60 in any situation on most tracks unless under massive load,but then cool to quickly and grain up to 10% even max camber super low or high psi and maxed bump

 

I think it might just be smaller, on the rollercoaster of a circuit called the Nordschleife in the Ferrari 458 (road version of course) I definitely get some feeling of the front end load.

 

...would be realy helpfull I guess, if Kunos/devs could give us:
a small tyre temp app (colours & numbers), shown the correct "in/mid/out" surface tyre temps for each tyre
(incl. a small tyre slip indicator like OV1 tyre temp app all the better).
cu on track!

 

If I understand you correctly, I'm experiencing the same thing. When I break and the front tires lose traction, my wheel goes completely limp with no forces or resistance at all until traction returns. Noticed on the Elise first, since this is a car I usually turn ABS off. Exige as well. Then drove the Cobra this morning, it it was even more pronounced, so not specifically a V5 problem. I did a complete fresh install of AC when 1.3 landed, and used new control config .ini files as well.
Other than this, the new feel of AC is great. V5 and 1.3 has been the biggest improvement yet. I really enjoyed taking the Elise thru the last chicane at Vallelunga, balanced, just barely sliding 4 wheels, then feeling it subtlety and gradually hook up again... (gradually = still talking fraction of a second here) Wow.

 

without wantin to repeat myself, Is the exaggerated understeer effect off?

 

Yes it is off. I tried it "on" as well, felt similar.

 

Another car that is significantly slower now @ Vallelunga Club is the BMW M235i R. I am generally at least as fast or quicker in most of the road cars that I have tested so far, but the DTM cars are each two seconds slower at this track, and my fastest lap time in the M235i R is 1.7 seconds slower than my old PB.

 

I dont understand that "panic" with slower laptimes .. ok GT are bugged but you should be happy you are getting more realistic laptimes .. if we can reach lap times from real world qualifications (not necesarry top lap times) "with coffee in a hand" that is indication that something is wrong with physics isn`t it ?

 

Laptimes aren't representative of good/bad physics. You can have bad physics and adjust initial grip and vice versa to get realistic times.