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Unrealistic sessions ends in multiplayer

Discussion in 'Chit Chat Room' started by Jempy, Oct 15, 2015.

  1. Jempy

    Jempy Simracer

    I'm surprised that V3 shows a step backwards in the session ends when server dedicated time is out.
    And I didn't even notice any word about it.

    V2 introduced the possibility for all drivers to finish their begun lap when the session time had come to an end.
    This was only for Free Practice and Qualifying session ...
    Else said, much more realistic than suddenly being teleported back to the pits.

    With V3, new change ... that's only for Qualifying session with a % setting:

    When I saw this change in V2 .... I was sure the system would be extended the same way .... to race ends.
    To be precise: all drivers would be able to finish their begun lap after the race winner passed the finish line... and of course might not begin a new lap if they had been overlapped by the race winner.
    Realistic way of finishing a race.

    If this was possible for Practice and Qualifications ... I wonder why it shouldn't be also possible for ... race.
    ( Time or laps ... not an enormous difference )

    Please, dear Kunos devs .... could you have a look at this realistic way of finishing a race session ?
     

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  3. If that teleportation is actually forced, that is horrible.
     
  4. Quffy

    Quffy Alien

    I agree, once the first crosses the finish line, it becomes the last lap for everyone, and everyone should have the chance to finish it; of course with the 120% thing to avoid trolls :) Those who have been lapped by the winner and still haven't crossed into the same lap by the time the 1st wins, that should be their final lap. Unless that's how it isn't irl.
    So with this change, I think the game should enforce for everyone, like it is enforced for practice and qualify.
     
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  5. Horus

    Horus Alien

    That is a server side option. If it is set too low then that is what happens, tell the admin of your servers to sort it out and it will work as it should. :)
     
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  6. Jempy

    Jempy Simracer

    In our servers, I always ( except for the latest race, hhhhmmmm I forgot for once ! :confused: ) add time enough for everyone to finish the begun lap ... a chance for everyone to finish their race.
    But !!!!!! ... it gives also time for the other drivers to begin another lap if they were overlapped in a less short race. ( Enduro races for example ) ... what should not be possible irl. ... except the lap to allow the cars to rejoin the pitlane of course. :D

    NB: and I'm suspecting ticking the Esc key ... isn't too good for results in Stracker. ( DNF showing in such cases .... I found no other reason for such DNF of drivers who finished their race.)

    NB2: besides this point, why not a race based on time with a choice: Time or laps ?
    And possible choice of weather sky for the different sessions in place of a random one.
     
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  7. YardStick

    YardStick Gamer

    I'm one of those guys who sometimes finish 1 or 2 laps behind others. Far as I know, the AC doesn't give you any hints about it, when the winner crossed the finish line.

    I'm no expert, but here's how I think it should work...

    I think the fairest option would be to let everybody finish their current lap, and then teleport all to pits after it.
    Even if you're 5 laps behind, you would get white flag, and let's say 1-3 minutes (depending on the car and a track) to cross the finish line.
    That way everybody knows when it ends, and everybody gets some time to chat about the race and save the awesome replay.
    I'm not sure how realistic that is compared to real life but I think this would be better than the current system.

    Other option is to let everybody race to the bitter end no matter how long it takes, and then give 20 secs to say bye and save, but as mentioned above that would give great tools for trolling.
    Maybe as an option for club and league races?

    Possibility to set only duration for the race would be good too.
    Give it 90 minutes and a chance to finish your last lap. The winner is the one who covered most laps, rest of the field gets the number of laps and minutes and seconds it took for them to finish it after the winner crossed the line. Messy explanation, but I hope you get what I mean. Sorry. English isn't my strongest language. ;)

    Now what happens is that you may get some sorta hint about the race ending when you see there are cars parked at he pit line, but you have no idea how long you have to go before the server resets. And that sucks.
     
  8. WallyM

    WallyM Alien

    Since we don't have timed races - they are only for a number of laps - it is daft at the moment how you can keep racing for several laps after the winner has crossed the finish line, if you were several laps down. Your race should be over when you cross the line after the winner, no matter what lap you are on. You shouldn't be able to just keep racing for several laps until you reach the final lap number!

    Knowing when the race is over is a pretty basic feature of a racing simulator...

    Here's a server log where people keep racing for a few laps after the winner is finished.

    Boris, Max, Roman and Denis all complete two more laps after the winner is finished.

    Line 23627: LAP Aleksandr Dryha 1:59:860 <= This is the winner crossing the line
    Line 23655: LAP Edward Nazarenko 1:57:194
    Line 23682: LAP Boris Verhov 2:03:206
    Line 23712: LAP Roman Balan 2:01:140
    Line 23739: LAP Max Turk 2:00:689

    Line 23770: LAP Yury Fufaykin 1:57:998
    Line 23797: LAP Denis Dunaev 2:12:020
    Line 23825: LAP Evgen Artemenko 1:59:498
    Line 23865: LAP Alexandr Samoylov 2:00:672
    Line 23915: LAP Vladislav Yakovlev 2:00:419
    Line 23942: LAP Anton Makarenko 2:00:876
    Line 23986: LAP Vasiliy Alekseev 2:16:419
    Line 24021: LAP Levan Min 2:01:441
    Line 24100: LAP Aleksey Peunin 2:00:694

    THIS SHOULD BE RACE OVER HERE, BUT THE RACE CONTINUES...

    Line 24132: LAP Boris Verhov 2:01:790
    Line 24173: LAP Max Turk 2:02:376
    Line 24200: LAP Roman Balan 2:03:389
    Line 24253: LAP Denis Dunaev 2:14:237
     

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  9. WallyM

    WallyM Alien

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  10. Sleeper Service

    Sleeper Service Hardcore Simmer

    I thought that was the case.. Annoys the hell out of me when I finish a race and the session ends and the chance to save a replay of a cracking race, or some idiotic moment, has gone before you can quit to save.
     
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  11. It would be nice to have the option to switch on an "automatic replay save" feature.
     

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