Is brake temperature simulation still coming?

Pretty much the title, it was released more than a year ago for some red pack cars, but nothing since then. Is it still being worked on? When can we expect it?

 

old cars already have it, i dont think its comming for the modern/road cars.

i hope it does
any plans for implementing brake temps for the remaining cars @Aristotelis ?

cheers

 

Last I heard the official line is:
modern race cars - can tune brake temperatures so they're never an issue, making it another pointless gauge like oil/water temps
road cars - would run out of brakes so fast they wouldn't be fun anymore (less than a lap in some cases)

 

That second line is so true in real life its actually funny.

Would be hilarious if Stefano one day decided to troll the forum and add it in.

Think this forum would break how many complaints would be made.

 

At least it'd distract from all the "why does this car understeer going round 90 degree corners at 100km/h?"

 

Depends on the radius, no? I also hate it when it happens.

 

I clearly remember that @Aristotelis said that brake ducts and tyre from brakes temperatures dependency coming but it was so long ago. Seems to be those plans dead as many others.

 

read stereo post, those were indeed the last official words, so only old cars will have brake temperature simulation, 99% certain of that

 

yup and tyre pressure!! The difference between a hot lap and a tank slapper (or a Cars and Coffee accident) can be as little as half 1/2 pound of pressure, hahahahahah

 

It's a fun feature that's available to all modders and from what I can tell - the quality modders have been using Brake Temperature. How realistic is it? I have absolutely no idea, but I like to include it when I'm working on a car.

I can tell you this, I wouldn't want to be in the Toyota GT 86 that's headed down the start finish straight, flying to that first corner chicane at Monza if the driver just did a typical "Sim Racing Hotlap". I see myself being cooked like a marshmallow over a campfire flame.

 

Imo only reason to implement tyre temps would be to fix the tyre heating issue and that would require adjustable brake ducts and adjustable heat conductors. It would mean a lot more setup parameters and knowing how 99% of the community dislikes any race car vehicle dynamics added to their plate on top of "just driving", would it be well received addition in the end?

And on top of that, like @Stereo mentioned, realistic brake temperatures in cars that are not designed for track driving would be just horrible. Instead we can just pretend that the street cars in AC have "trackday" package installed so they can be hotlapped and raced properly..

 

Outside F1 how many cars have adjustable size brake ducts in real life though?

 

Well... considering that brake temperatures do influence tyre temperatures in high performance race cars (granted I'm not a race engineer but at least I got the impression, so unless you provide me definite proof that this isn't the case in any such car that's what I go on...) I would just express my desire for this to be implemented in modern race cars anyway, provided they have data to base it on (which is probably the sole issue that speaks against/prevents it).

Oh, also: brakes needing to get on temperature... I always got the impression that this is indeed a very real thing in GT and Formula cars (not just the tyre temps).

 

I don’t mean brake temperature I was referring to adjustable brake ducts specifically.

The brake temperature sim we have seems to model the effects of under temperature but not over.

 

Sorry, I didn't reply to your comment specifically. Just posted after you, replying to the general discussion and topic.

 

Oh didn't know those facts about brake temperatures, i'm so sad to learn that road cars in AC can't be driven that way in real life. This could be an optional thing like Fuel or Tyre wear. Personaly i think of AC as substitute to real life racing (which is too expensive for common people) and if brake have such an important role so it should be implemented to close the gap to reality.

 

That's just by choice though, they set it up so the brakes can only drop to 80% (or whatever) effectiveness overheated. I think with the way sim pedals are generally kinda crap most of the actual effects of brake overheating that come through the pedals can't be done accurately.

 

There is also problem that real manufactures would be very angry with Kunos.

If AC's bmw m4 after 3-4 hard laps cooks its breaks (which actually happens in real life with most road cars)

 

how do other games do it then and get away with this on road cars? pcars2, rfactor2