Physics/ffb in assetto corsa vs iracing vs real life

The wait is long but, not as long as having actually used one and then having to wait knowing what you are missing.

 

I probably won't win the lottery any time soon considering I haven't bought a ticket in years. Plus if I spent that much money and was still as slow as I am now I wouldn't know what to do with myself; it's bad enough as it is that I am seconds slower than an alien buddy of mine and he is using a DFGT with G25 pedals and a lawn chair.

 

Seems a normal trend, there're more dfgt aliens than g25/7. They may have other pedals, but the wheel base continues, since the dfgt ffb can be better than the newer logitech wheels. I spent and still spend sometimes more time finding good g27 settings for cars than actually learning to drive properly on a track :/ cri evrytim

 

Yeah, I don't buy them either. I know that you are much faster than I am but, I guess I'm in it for the immersion anyway. Either way, the AF can help greatly with the immersion and many of the Beta-testers reported improvements in their overall race performance due to catching slides and making more saves when stepping over the edge. They say it's due to being able to feel it instead of seeing it happening. I think that it's true, the AF is so much quicker and more responsive than non-DD wheels that I think the higher forces actually enhance our ability to connect with the car and sense through tactile senses faster than sight. I know that I have never felt so connected to the Sim-car before, it just feels like the real deal.

 

How comparable is the Clubsport wheel to it? That's something that I might actually be able to obtain someday.

 

@Michael Hornbuckle you slow? Get out of here, I've been chasing your times for over a year lol.

@Dean Ogurek the wait is killing me and I didn't know they put the diy quick releases up for sale and missed out. Now I have to wait for the next batch and at the moment ship my formula rim to England to be converted.

Thinking of paying for an iracing membership again just to see what moats have been doing to there's.

 

I hope that's not a serious question Michael. Michael . . .

 

I wish I could try either of them considering that I get completely immersed using my crappy used DFGT....A DD wheel might actually be more real than real

 

@Leemstradamus: There is one fella on the iRacing forums that is converting his Fanatec F1 wheel for use with the AF. The couple pics he showed looked nice. I might have some concerns about the durability but, probably not with moderate force settings.

I don't maintain my iRacing account normally but, I took advantage of the 3-month special minus my credits to follow the hardware threads and test the Oculus support. 4$ dollars well spent.

 

synthetic is such a great word for it. feels so unnatural to me. i think im way to infrequent a user to 'appreciate' it; it strikes me as a language you can learn & be rewarded for but one thats a lot different from everything else we use.

 

Seriously, the AF is flat-out amazing. The CSWv1 was a nice bump up from the G25 but, the AF is in a completely different league - apples to baseball bats.

 

~1700€, so please

 

yeah i think if i ever upgrade my wheel itll be a thrustmaster. would love the pure immersion of a DD (dont care about lap times so much; pedals for that), but i dont think its worth nearly $2000 on my meager budget.

 

In my opinion iRacing has better FFB until the tires slide too much, there it gives very little information, making it very hard to save an important slide. AC FFB is the worst by far of any modern sim, it's just a big spring... it gives a lot of information when the tire loses grip, way too much, so in that regard is better than iR probably, but that's all. Going to GSCE or rF2 after playing AC really opens my eyes every time, the difference is like day and night with the ISI sims, FFB is very superior in every possible area, and rF2 tires are incredibly dynamic. Sadly it runs like crap on my computer.

 

What wheel are you using; I need to know what to never buy....weird how different people feel completely different things in different sim/games.

 

T500RS

 

theres obv a big element of subjectivity involved. what DD says can be true & you can still come to a completely different conclusion. ie, i can read that as 'iR FFB is great -- except when it actually needs to be' & 'AC is dull but very useful'. something like that; anyway my main point is getting upset over someones opinion of ffb, provided theyre being genuine as im sure DD is, is pretty silly.

 

I will scratch that off the want list then....In AC I can tell everything the car is doing through my lowly DFGT....In iracing I would be better off unplugging it.

 

I for the life of me feel the complete opposite. I've asked @Matt orr and others about it and they swear by rf2 but loath ac. Rf2 feels nice but gives no information to me about weight and weight transfer. Breaking is and has been a nightmare for me with their engines since I first bought gtr2. I just don't see or shall I say feel it.

 

Yes certainly subjectivity (and wheel settings, game settings etc) are important. And I don't expect to make friends in a AC forum saying that for me AC's FFB is the worst but it is really what I feel. Anyway iRacing FFB is also quite inferior to rF2 and GSCE, for me they are the real reference. Yesterday I drove many sims in a row because I had to set my new pedals, and the feeling difference was huge when I jumped from AC to GSCE; I drove some laps at Johannesbourg with the 70s F1 and all the time I was getting excellent feedback.