Project CARS 2

The weather effects in PCars1 are amazing. >I often only do hotlapping with weather changing all 10 minutes from sunshine to heavy rain back to sunshine...only the sounds of the game are no that good, special the very stuttering and unnatural shifting on some cars.

But as a shiny looking funracer PC2 will be definately on my wishlist!

 

ya the sounds were like on off switch, hope they improved them.

 

Oh Thats right! Forgot about Sound. Imo more Important than graphics to feel immersed - but also the speedperception improves!
R3e and especially dirt Rally Are as good als they Are cause of the sound. With Sound ala Gran Tourismo i wouldt Even Brother to try to Play them.

 

So in your opinion, the sounds is the only issue with Project Cars? Are you forgetting the bad physics?

 

As a fun racer, the physics are great for me. I do not need superhardcore physics. That´s why i left RF2 modding cause only great physics does not make a good game! I have AC as a hardcore simulation and honestly, i am not the best driver. So for some races against the AI or hotlapping, PC was great fun for me. I like the graphics and the overall look of PC, the "virtual camera" thing with the blur effects are great, the weather system, night/day and all this together, there is no game out there that can do this.

 

from pcars forums.
"The videos above are from an internal presentation and were used in a temporary placeholder intro for the game. It's not a trailer, the announce trailer is done and should expect to see it sometime early Feb."

 

I hope most of the tracks are LS in pcars2, to me it adds alot of immersion knowing the track is really accurate.

 

@Fonsecker : Speaking of a fun racer, I really hope they include split-screen 2 player.

 

Until they show actual gameplay. This video means nothing. Just a get on the hype train announcement ! Woo woo.. sucker train coming!!! HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHA *cough* HAHAHHAHHA.. all aboaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaard!!! Next stop, Suckertown U.S.A , finaaaaaaaaal stop, Simcade Physics city limits!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHHAA.. Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I'm done..

 

We wont be able to tell much about the driving by looking at gameplay footage neither though.

 

Nope, not at all. Although graphically its best to remain suspect until gameplay footage is released.

 

Yes, the hardcore Sim crowd has attitude - Surprise!

We are like resentful tiny dogs that feel as though we are under constant threat of being wiped out by the bigger ones that outnumber us x1000. It's just the nature of things really, there isn't much we can do to change that; it's not like the roles at play are ever going to reverse or become fair and equal.

I think the resentment towards Pcars goes even deeper though, due to some involved in WMD feeling shut out and under valued; anyone that questioned the physics and made reference to the top Sim titles was promptly dismissed or labeled as being too hardcore and hardcore is simply wrong. Early on, the goal was "Realism"; in the end, the definition of that turned out to be something different than what some of us had hoped for. The term "Realism" was just too vague and we bought into it; it's much how I might describe the car handling today - "vaguely realistic".

SMS did the right thing from a commercial ROI point of view and they are not at all, concerned about what a tiny minority of hardcore Sim-racers think. Some of us had unrealistic expectations to begin with and ended up being disappointed. Back to AC, AMS and rF2 with R3E filling some of the gap; and that's certainly not a bad thing IMO.

 

I would expect that kind of stuff as well for a big title like pCars as well. I think it's really impressive that you could hop from AC to iRacing or R3E and experience basically the same Nordschleife. Yeah, there are some minor variations in 3D assets and details, but the track itself is the same.
However they could have done it in pCars 1 and decided against it, so I doubt we'll see laserscanned tracks in pC2, but they should go ahead and laserscan things
It doesn't really bother me in AMS, but most of their tracks aren't in too many other sims, so you can't compare most of them to laserscanned versions. For mods you can't expect laserscans so they don't suffer too much, but for a title like pCars I would like to have tracks done properly and having them laserscanned is one aspect of that.

 

Which is why I am not concerned about what they do.

Let them do their thing. pCars2 surely will be successful, but it won't be for me. Which is ok.

 

IMSEO, (In My Sim Elitist Opinion ) many of us don't fit into the Pcars demographic model anyway but, I wonder if LS technology isn't overkill in the case of Pcars.

 

When I first saw the trailer I was like "you fool me once, it's your fault; you fool me twice, it's my fault". Conclusion: I won't fall a second time for the immsense hype.

But now - a couple of hours later, I'm with Fonsecker: Maybe I'll get it as shiny fun racer (when it is on sale).
It looks simply fantastic. I like the standing water on track and how it goes back/seeps away. I hope that the puddles will have an impact on both the handling and the FFB. But I fear that I will be disappointed (again).

Although they lack plausible impact on physics (IMO), I really like the weather effects of Project Cars.
Speaking of physics, I'm somewhat suspicious about PC2 due to the introduction of snow and gravel.
As someone said in this thread (edit: It was kofotsjanne): They haven't succeeded in simulating rain physics properly (on tarmac); how can they ever succeed in simulating rain physics on gravel and snow as well?

 

About laserscanning, I remember reading a comment on the official forum saying that after having finished the game and all the hard work in creating non-LS tracks, it might actually be better to have them laserscanned, even from a financial perspective, because of the workload that it saves them in creating all assets on the tracks and making sure bumps and elevations are as accurate as can be from photos alone. The laserscanning itself is not quite as expensive itself, it's getting the rights to do it that is the more expensive thing + the extra manhours that are required to create things from CAD, satellite imagery and real photos.

 

This comment is priceless
http://www.racedepartment.com/threads/early-project-cars-2-trailer-leaked.131201/page-2#post-2388912

 

You should know better than to ask that, lol.