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Steering wheel hardness

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by Iketani, Jun 29, 2015.

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  1. Iketani

    Iketani Simracer

    We want an option to adjust the hardness of the steering wheel (not FFB effects, that are correct). And an option to adjust a different steering wheel hardness for each car (in the setup, for example).
     
    Iketani, Jun 29, 2015
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  2. Fivizzz

    Fivizzz Simracer

    You mean, a slider just like the one that already exists and has been there since version 0.21?
     
    Last edited: Jun 29, 2015
    Fivizzz, Jun 29, 2015
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  3. Horus

    Horus Alien

    What, like a garage setting that has force feedback and dampener! My goodness man you ask too much. How would they ever do such a thing! Surely it against human decency, maybe an infringement on civil liberties or at least a crime against cats.

    [​IMG] ​
     
    Horus, Jun 29, 2015
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  4. Iketani

    Iketani Simracer

    I don't mean slider for FFB effects hardness, I mean for only steering wheel hardness (with the same FFB effects hardness). If I turn down gain, damper, FFB in setup, etc. all the hardness turns down (steering wheel hardness and FFB effects hardness, not only steering wheel hardness).
     
    Iketani, Jun 30, 2015
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  5. Dean Ogurek

    Dean Ogurek Alien

    Are you referring to the Self Aligning Torque?
     
    Dean Ogurek, Jun 30, 2015
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  6. Iketani

    Iketani Simracer

    Steering wheel hardness, to turn right and left, it's easy to understand I think... xD
     
    Iketani, Jun 30, 2015
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  7. LeDude83

    LeDude83 Alien

    I guess you're looking for the term "resistance" but I don't see a point in having an individual slider for that. More wheel resistance is a tradeoff vs. fidelity - in real life, too! If you increase the resistance, you can't just keep the effects just like they are now. So if you want something like that I suggest you play around with damping. It will cause the overall resistance to be higher (as a side effect) and the fidelity to decrease.
     
    LeDude83, Jun 30, 2015
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  8. Iketani

    Iketani Simracer

    tradeoff vs. fidelity - in real life?? It's not the same the resistance of the Fiat 500 Abarth and the resistance of the Lotus 98T, for example... Why tradeoff vs. fidelity - in real life?? :/
     
    Iketani, Jun 30, 2015
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  9. LeDude83

    LeDude83 Alien

    Topic 1: What I mean is: if in real life you would increase steering resistance in your wheel by adding maybe some "brake pads" causing friction on the steering column, this will also damp the "effects" when you e. g. smash that car across a curb.

    Topic 2: You mention steering resistance differences between different car types. So if you want to have these differences to be present in the game, you must set the FFB strength in each car to the same value! AC will imo simulate the steering rack and pretty much everything that goes into the steering resistance so the 500 will have lower resistance than the 98T. The problem is that your G27 isn't all that strong and so the 500's FFB will feel very, very weak.

    BTW: Did you try the damping?
     
    LeDude83, Jun 30, 2015
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  10. Iketani

    Iketani Simracer

    Ok thanks for the answer. Then I'll try different FFB config for each car, in setup for example. And I dont' feel any differences between 100% of damper and 0% of damper, but I'll try another time... Thanks.
     
    Iketani, Jun 30, 2015
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  11. LeDude83

    LeDude83 Alien

    Attention! As far as i know "damper" in garage will just scale the damping in the controls menu! If you have 0% damping in the controls menu, the slider in the setup will do nothing because x*0 = 0. So if you want to play around with damper to get the steering "thicker", please add a good amount of damping in the controls menu and then scale it with the car setup slider. If you set it to 0 % there will be no damping. At 100 % there will be the damping you set in the controls menu and so on...
     
    LeDude83, Jun 30, 2015
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  12. Iketani

    Iketani Simracer

    I don't feel any difference between 0% damping and 200% damping in car setup (with 99% of damping adjusted in main controls menu)... and I've checked the "Allow game configuration" option in Logitech driver panel...:confused:
     
    Iketani, Jul 1, 2015
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  13. Iketani

    Iketani Simracer

    Please, can anyone help me? I don't feel differences between 0 and 200% of "FFB damper" in car setup options... I want to simulate the power steering effect and I don't know how to do that...
     
    Iketani, Jul 4, 2015
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  14. some1pl

    some1pl Alien

    Do you have damper enabled in Logitech profiler?
     
    some1pl, Jul 4, 2015
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  15. Iketani

    Iketani Simracer

    No... I don't like damper of logitech profiler :p
     
    Iketani, Jul 4, 2015
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  16. liakjim

    liakjim Alien

    Final damper = FFB damper in car options/100 * damper in game options/100 * damper in profiler/100 .
    Do the math.
     
    Last edited: Jul 4, 2015
    liakjim, Jul 4, 2015
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  17. Iketani

    Iketani Simracer

    In game options are 99 :oops: jajajaja it's a joke. I want to adjust the resistance in turns, not at returns (autocentered) of the steering wheel... If I put damper 100% in logitech profiler I get resistance at returns of the steering wheel...
     
    Iketani, Jul 5, 2015
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  18. LeDude83

    LeDude83 Alien

    But, isn't "resistance on return" also what power steering does?!?
     
    LeDude83, Jul 5, 2015
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  19. liakjim

    liakjim Alien

    Reading this thread and what OP says, the following song comes to my mind :

     
    liakjim, Jul 5, 2015
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  20. Iketani

    Iketani Simracer

    Yes, also on returns... but only on returns are fake... xD I want power steering on turns and returns...:confused:
     
    Iketani, Jul 5, 2015
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