ACC 0.7 Discussion

I have my pit speed limiter set to automatic and have never had a penalty. Do you stay in first gear until the exit.

 

Great in theory but in practice you have

a) 1/3 time there is a crash in the rolling start grid due to 0.7 bug / people not getting off the line and people becoming impatient / trying to drive around

b) 1/3 time you get rammed from behind in 1st corner by someone going "suspiciously fast" (i.e. probably ramming on purpose...)

c) people you lap who are not actually in the race will pull stupid stuff a lot of the time which is hard to avoid

d) occasional wrecker. impossible to avoid only if you see them ram someone else first so you know who they are you have a chance.

Most of a-d you wont get in an actual racecar (or assetto corsa + SRS for that matter)..... c) is the biggest problem for SA.

Im at SA35 and sure you can get higher on servers where some other people dont really care about SA much but not while actually racing/having fun. I think Minolin has to just start adding SA restrictions on the Kunos servers e.g. first SA >0 or SA>10 etc. I hope that works and the effect is not the entire population shifting to non-Kunos servers.

I think for now dont blame yourself if you cant get above SA56..... just wait for MP to become a bit less wild west.

 

@CKraegel 0.7.2 looks to have you sorted

"Navigation is now possible in the MFD in VR mode"

 

What's OBWP again?

Thanks for clarifying 1)

Yes, I also find it completly legit to be able to earn SA vs AI, but just not as much as vs people. I'm also not mad about it, just afraid this could be abused by more people with a bad temper.
That guy I was talking about wasn't a real wrecker, but if he gets mad he occasionally might ruin a race for someone on purpose. So he also earned his SA in MP. But (at least that's what he said) as soon as those actions lowered his SA he simply kept going to SP to regain it by follwoing the AI relativly closly. I know to see the bigger picture is of course more important, but maybe there is a solution for both.

Well I think a) is sorted out by the latest hotfix

You're right with b-d. I also experience a lot of that stuff but as I mentioned I only drive MP and mostly on Kunos official #01 @Zolder. Zolder kinda fixes b), d) is kinda rare and c)...well I have no argument here x)

 

Awesome! Thx Kunos!

 

Totally agree, 1 wrecker can ruin the experience of hundreds of people. Banning 20-50 people out of 3000 would not harm the game. It would be much worse if the game gets a wreckfest reputation.

Of course mistakes should not be banneable, I mean... We all make mistakes and crash into someone, but not on purpose. Kunos has to get rid of the people that wreck on purpose.

I don't agree with your methods and your "justice". If you don't want to talk to people that think differently it is up to you.

Wel, i'll keep talking about wreckers as I think that is probably the issue that most damage can do to a game i love. And our talking might give some ideas to devs.

I see that you want clean races from your last sentence. So, what would you do with the wreckers? I see 2 possible solutions.

1. That the SA rating works and they always have it below 20 (for example) but someone who just starts the game, will be matched against all of them. Not the best situation in my opinion for a new player.

2. warnings and ban for repetitive wrecking behaviour.

Also think about the people that will buld up SA, then spare a couple of points with wrecks, then build up SA again... Thats more complicated.

Agree

 

How about setting a limit for SA vs AI?? For example.... Make that if your SA is 50 or more, that you cant gain any SA when you run against AI. In this way, new drivers can get to 50, get enough experience and unlockRC, and we avoid that people can farm SA over that 50 mark.

What do you guys think?

EDIT: sorry for the double post

 

I disagree. I think my SA is already at 66 or so and I race on the official servers. It might be you ;-)

 

I'm not sure about that. I experienced a lot of people who are more than capable of driving in traffic properly (and thus it's easy for them to gain SA) but have a bad temper. So as soon as there is someone unintentionally "ruining" their race they become revenge wreckers or as I like to call them "sleepers". Those people often misjudge the reason of the incident and assume they got hit/rammed/squeezed of the track on purpose and want to take revenge by doing stupid stuff. Considering the example I was giving: If even your own mistakes suffice to get so mad that you have to ruin someone else's race, you maybe shouldn't be able to play MP let alone joining servers with a SA over 70 (given the current status).

So let's say there aren't only a few of those sleepers out there, they don't have to freak out very often to have a lot of races ruined and thus they always are able to keep their SAs just good to join even heavy SA restricted servers.

I'd recommend that there is a harder SA penalty for crashes with a certain velocity delta. No one who just misjudged their breaking point is gonna crash into someone else with an excess speed of over 100 km/h for example ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

I haven't come across many intentional wreckers, most people I had issues with just weren't good drivers. I don't really see the need for it, but if it's more of an issue than I've personally experienced, maybe it would be a good idea to split the safety rating in one for online and one for single player?

 

I thought adding fuel at the pitstop was now enabled? The pitstop page in the MFD, fuel is still faded away unable to click or add anything there

 

It was a 2 hour race online.

Edit: Endurance Race - 6H was the mode

 

I can't test myself until Thursday...has the stutter been eliminated or improved upon?

Discussion is here: https://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/stutter-with-0-7.56003/

 

Maybe refuelling is a specific server setting and setting up just endurance race doesn't automatically activate refuelling? Just my guess

 

Then I dont know why my fueling thing was faded out, It was a 2 hour endurance race online, and nobody could finish because we couldn't refuel, I was in VR, so not sure if thats why, and it wasn't a Kunos server, is it a server setting?

 

Endurance Race - 6H only defines the available car set, the refuelling is still up to the server.

If you want refuelling there is a separate setting to be enabled by the server admin