Dynamic Weather Discussion

try to lower the wetness and the standing water like 35/50

 

Do these options only work in sprint races? I can set standing water and track wetness levels in a quick race.

I did a quick race with clear preset, dynamic weather, variability set to 85% or so and few min in it started to rain but what I noticed was puddles formed on track before the track even got wet enough to feel or see any spray from cars tyres. Puddle formation should occur after both those happen first!

 

Racing in the WET is worse than PC2 unfortunetly. The AI is impossible, using the wet setup, in the medium rain setting, the AI is flying past me on the straights and they outbrake me every corner on the track, not to mention that if the rain starts mid-race, the AI on dry slicks is doing lap times as fast as me on wet slicks. The AI was the best before 0.6, now is just a chore

 

You must be a troll aren't ya. You must be.

 

All I can tell you is that my ignore list is working perfectly

 

Troll or not, he is kinda right about the AI staying on dry tires and doing the same lap times. It just happened to me.

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That'd be defeating the point of the test.

 

I have to agree, ability of the AI to drive in the wet tends to be way off in some situations IMHO. In heavy rain or storm with lots of standing water the AI doesn't seem to be bothered by standing water much at all. Particularly that deadly puddle in the penultimate turn at Paul Ricard. Black braking lines on the ground (all in the same place...) after a few laps but seemingly no time lost for them, while you as a player spin out immediately if you don't lift and stop braking and turning (or compromise way off the racing line with the AI just overtaking then). Definitely an area that will have to see some more attention in future.

 

I have two questions, firstly will there be a real weather option? Secondly how do you change to wet tyres when the race starts out as dry? When I pit I cant see a way to change to sets and drys just go on automatically.

 

What do you guys think, do dry tires have way too much grip in wet conditions??
I do.

 

Not only that, also the braking points are the same in wet as in dry, and on top of that the AI is totally ignoring the wet conditions and the puddles, like i said earlier where that dude called me a troll.

 

Has your dry line been rubbered in? The dry line should only be a problem if there's been a load of rubber laid down shouldn't it? On a green track the dry line should be the same as the rest of the track???

 

Thx @Aristotelis , I appreciate your involvement.
How do I know what exact condition were? Is it possible to get any exact status of "current" conditions?
I would really be glad to help you out guys.

According to the prediction icons it was raining (3 drops of rain), you can clearly see on the spray, but there were just a few puddle on some spots. And there was no rubbered line, I started the race in a bit of wet, this was in 4th lap, when was already all wet. Its not a problem of TC was saving me, but how much grip do I have in the mid turns, way too much for a slick tires. Thats the reason I am saying all these. And I didn`t check what kind of tires AI had on, but I guess not dry, according to how I was holding them up behind me.

 

If the race started with some rain, probably the AI was on wets. But it happened to me that it started raining in one of my last races, and after some time I was sliding around badly but the AI seemed to continue at the same pace. And I checked their tires and they were in fact still using dry tires.

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The video you pasted, it starts braking at 200m mark, that`s more then 50m earlier compared to dry conditions into T1, and that is quite a difference. And using wet tires.
@Aristotelis , we are now talking about using dry tire compounds in wet conditions. That video you pasted has nothing to do with it, but this one does, a lot actually:



And I know what I am talking about, I am RL shifter 125ccm kart driver (KZ10 engine and BirelArt chassis), and I know how it looks to drive in wet with dry tires. I was on some practice sessions in the past, where prediction was just dry (so I didn`t take wet tires alongside), but (un)fortunately there was some rain. Instead of waiting that rain stops, we went out to test wet condition with dry tires - it was more like a suicide then something else indeed.
And GT3 dry tire compound with absolutely no grooves its almost the same, it has some advantage because of the weight of the car compared to kart, but still, its more like driving on ice. I am sure about that!

So current ACC physics and tire models are a bit off, regarding using dry tire in wet.

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One great video from the 24H Nurburgring 2017. You can clearly see the difference here, he is "fighting" the car in wet, and how slow he takes some downhills, incredible - as I said, conditions are like on ice. He tries to avoid racing line, but still, its all slippery.


Hope it help you guys at least considering changing physics a bit more, to even now great game

 

No, I am not trying to argue in anyway, my whole intention is to come with physics as close as possible to RL. You should at least know me by now.