Is anyone else faster with the gt2 cars rather than the gt3 ones?

GT cars are race specific machines in many cases not resembling the real cars much more then a basic shape. Many GT3 cars can actually be bought from the factory race spec ready these days and its a very popular series because of this. After all in many countries there is little point in having a supercar for the road as you dont get to drive it any differently then if you had any other POS, may as well get a track specific one in a series designed to allow driver aids to make less skilled drivers not suck as much as they would otherwise.

Mcalaren even made a faster version of the MP4 12c can am that isnt restricted by GT3 rules and so cant be raced in any series but purely for track day use for extra rich buggers not interested in racing but want better performance then gt3 cars can give.
http://www.caradvice.com.au/201524/mclaren-mp4-12c-gt-can-am-edition-enter-production/



The Nissan GTR doesnt share much with its street cousin other then body design just like many other gt cars, In japan I have even seen a Prius GT3 beat all other GT3 cars.



The GT2 cars in AC also have much better tyres then the GT3 cars so this is one of their main advantage along with more aero for better cornering grip.

 

That's not entirely true, the FIA created both GT2 and GT3, they're just different specifications for different reasons and series.

 

Technicly it is not GT3 car. The class is called GT300, but since recent years the GT3 cars are allowed to race against them. As far as i know the GT300 cars have even less in common with their road variants. The Subarus BRZ GT300 has a completely changed suspension design. If i remember correctly the Prius i rear wheel driven.

 

Great post. While the differences between GT2 and GT3 were celar to me before, what you mentioned about the many name changes is the most confusing thing to me. I am not a regular race watcher and I rememberGT racing of the late 90ies up to 2000 (go Team Oreca Viper ) when car classes were very distinguishable. Now I just see new classes pop up everywhere in GT racing and it is very confusing. This is not very well explained on random google searches. All in all a great topic, a lot of useful info.

Also, who has fond memories of this bad boy?

Crazy times when a car manufacturer would build such cars just for homologation purposes and boos their image at the same time.
And then we saw this magical moment happening in GT1 history...

Looks like broken game physics to me
Classes were so easily distinguished back then... Nowadays gentlemen racers get access to almost FACTORY spec racers and need a separate class. this is crazy too.

 

The other reason GT1 didnt quite succeed is because they were pretty much prototype race cars and one off builds, this made them very expensive and fields were quite small in comparison to what has now come of the main series which is mostly gt3. Seeing GT3 cars mostly can be bought race ready from the manufacturer any person with a bit of cash or a race team can get into the series without direct factory assistance. The class also has BOP so racing is relatively close plus full use of ABS and TC in most series to allow for am drivers to be on circuit with the full on pro drivers. Many of the big races attract huge fields with well over 100 entries for the 24 hr races such as Spa and Nordschleife which dont have any prototype cars running alongside the GT cars.

The racing is really quite good and competitive in the gt cars these days and its also possible for a non professional driver if good enough to get a car that can match the top teams filled with pro drivers, they are quite easy to drive but still takes proper skill to get the most out of them. I am not a huge fan of having TC in GT racing but some am drivers are pretty bad even with full aids. I wonder if this guy ever drove his green Ferrari after the Blancpain Monza race last year.



I also remember watching the Nordschleife 24 hrs for a few hours last year with 2 of the cars separated by less then 2 seconds for probably 2 full fuel stints. Even the Bathurst 12hr last year was probably a better race then the v8 supercar race and next years field should be even better. So GT3 is the main series world wide and many manufacturers are getting into it by building customer cars to anyone that has the cash with more and more coming in each year it seems.

 

In other words, GT4 is better than all of the others combined

 

I won't let you claim it alone. Apparently I'm a bigger idiot. I've been playing this for a year and I also did NOT know that the bigger the number the 'slower' the spec.
Also... the two guys I play with did not know that... in fact we all prefer the M3 and would always throw it in our multiplayer matches and unknowingly pit it against the wrong cars.

 

try to race with an evora GTE against a 458 GT2 and write here the results, please.

 

The Evora GTE is as much of an GTE car as the 911 GT3 is a GT3 car. GT2s got more or less replaced by GTE's.

 

Incorrect

 

he did, i think he almost killed someone at spa, sadly. dont remember the details.

 

http://www.radiators-champ.com/RSRLiveTiming/index.php?page=rank&track=2&car=41

http://www.radiators-champ.com/RSRLiveTiming/index.php?page=rank&track=2&car=66

gt2 is just 20 seconds faster than gte around imola.
gt2 and gte are not the same thing.

edit: screw it, i was thinking about the evora GTC, i tought it was gte.

 

actually they are. i think the evora gte is a road car, its not competitive with other gte/gt2 cars

 

you should compare the gtc or gx.. not gte (? I think)

 

Thanks everyone for the amazing responses!

I don't think many people fully understand this as well. Yesterday I was racing online in a server which had the gt3 and gt2 cars. I was 2nd. or 3rd. with an m3 and I had passed 12c's and z4's to get there, and I was just pulling away. I thought "wow I'm really good, look at me with my little bmw and they can't keep up with those supercars". Of course I passed them, my car is so much better. What an idiot

Great post! I totally agree with the sentiment of "sharing" the experience of owning that same car that is racing. And it's just so much more of a show to attend something like a Blancpain race than an F1 race. But, you know, F1 is F1, the pinnacle and glamour of everything. And it is a big marketing tool too. For example, this year Mercedes absolutely dominated everything with the new engines, and they are publiciting it like mad.

To me all of them are great and fascinating. If anyone is interested, here's a list of all races of all series in 2014: http://redd.it/2ogsv2

 

A really nice point! So many information. Well written and a good read. Just one naggle:
F458GT2 is not rev limited. It's air intake limited. You can rev it up to 8.5k RPM, but it runs out of breath at about 7.3.

 

yeah i agree with ferrari's post but disagree about F1, i am sure AMG mercedes owners were quite pleased with this season for example.

 

Only considering my personal - mediocre at best - performance standards: with default setups I can do Spa in best lap times of 2:20 in GT2 cars, and 2:23 in GT3 cars.

And here is the joke: in the LaFerrari I can do it in 2:18. LOL.

Regulations and race classes all fine and well - at least in the sim obviously a lot depends also on individual driving style. Or as the say: its a question of taste. LOL

 

That's irrelevant.

The Evora GTE isn't actually a GTE class car, it's just called that. The actual GTE class car is completely different. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6087/6151468958_3b921f925e_z.jpg