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Question for the devs concerning ffb differences

Discussion in 'Chit Chat Room' started by Psit, Sep 15, 2015.

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  1. William Levesque

    William Levesque Alien

    As many options as in PCars would be pretty pointless. Honestly, I have no idea what 90% of the options do on there. It's crazy.
     
    William Levesque, Feb 3, 2016
    #61
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  2. stefanoCasillo

    stefanoCasillo Alien

    the problem is that the way you go and measure these supposed "hardware limitations" is all over the place. People like to obsess over useless details like these.. I don't care, but I enjoy watching ppl obsessing :D, see their brain explode in internet fights and endless discussion.
    It looks like 0.1% understand what Steer Assist is supposed to mean, that annoys greatly, to see stuff misused by ppl not understanding it is very annoying.. so, at least I'll give you the PROPER way to address the FEELZ... :p but that's where my part ends.
     
    stefanoCasillo, Feb 3, 2016
    #62
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  3. stefanoCasillo

    stefanoCasillo Alien

    TBH.. approaching FF coding like that is like confessing that they don't have a clue whatsoever of what they are trying to achieve.. let alone do it.
     
    stefanoCasillo, Feb 3, 2016
    #63
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  4. William Levesque

    William Levesque Alien

    Or maybe they just wanted to show "Here, look how complicated this is, it must be very advanced and realistic physics right ?" :D
     
    William Levesque, Feb 3, 2016
    #64
  5. ouvert

    ouvert Alien

    Or they just put interface to the config files editing we all used to do in simbin era... I'm not saying it is good or bad, pC is no longer in my interest and never really was, but what would I give for some ffb options few AC version back when I couldn't enjoy it cause of FFB... pCars way of ffb setting is done in very confusing way but after 20-30 minutes I was able to dial it in with some almost universal settings providing me good feel and informations...
    No ffb options if great when it works, terrible when it doesn't.
     
    ouvert, Feb 3, 2016
    #65
  6. WallyM

    WallyM Alien

    That's been a longstanding issue in all sims. There are always LOTS of options to be tweaked, but they are never explained properly by the devs, leading to all sorts of inaccurate assumptions and myths springing up on the internet. But I do appreciate that it would be quite an effort to document every setting well and conclusively.
     
    WallyM, Feb 3, 2016
    #66
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  7. William Levesque

    William Levesque Alien

    Maybe but c'mon, steering rod length or something like that, really ? xD
     
    William Levesque, Feb 3, 2016
    #67
  8. ouvert

    ouvert Alien

    :) yep, things like that should be part of a car steering geometry and not ffb option .. but imagining they only offer default FFB preset with FFB strength .. it would be soooo bad ..
     
    ouvert, Feb 3, 2016
    #68
  9. Iketani

    Iketani Simracer

    Steer assist is not power steering, Lord Kunos. And official cars have steer assist:

    McLaren MP4 GT3
    STEER_ASSIST=0.80

    McLaren 650S GT3
    STEER_ASSIST=0.80

    Lotus Evora GTC
    STEER_ASSIST=0.880

    Ferrari P4
    STEER_ASSIST=0.820
     
    Iketani, Feb 23, 2016
    #69
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  10. Nahkamarakatti

    Nahkamarakatti Alien

    I think you better delete the data taken from encrypted Kunos cars. You will find yourself banned otherwise..

    Edit: Kunos himself has already confirmed these will be corrected.
     
    Last edited: Feb 23, 2016
    Nahkamarakatti, Feb 23, 2016
    #70
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  11. neel

    neel Racer

    I would never dial with so many parameters offline (change, start session, test, close session, change etc.).

    I strongly suggested they try to make it realtime and with an API that would have made possible to dial with all those parameters using a (real) potentiometer box.

    That would have been ffb tweaking nirvana for me (needless to say it did not happen :D Instead they came with the idea of "realtime car setup", omg...).
     
    neel, Apr 5, 2016
    #71
  12. neel

    neel Racer

    So the ffb post process feature made it through 1.5.5 but the related ingame apps that was planned as a preset selector for it is not there yet, right ?
     
    neel, Apr 6, 2016
    #72
  13. kofotsjanne

    kofotsjanne Alien

    wrong
     
    kofotsjanne, Apr 6, 2016
    #73
  14. neel

    neel Racer

    Explain. The feature is in the patchnotes and the files are there. But no app for presets/graph.
     
    neel, Apr 6, 2016
    #74
  15. kofotsjanne

    kofotsjanne Alien

    kofotsjanne, Apr 6, 2016
    #75
  16. Seanspeed

    Seanspeed Hardcore Simmer

    While Project Cars had some really bizarre feedback settings in terms of nomenclature, them having a sort individual strength slider(spindle force) for each car really was hugely important in terms of dialing in a consistent level of FFB for any/all cars.

    I think this is one thing AC could take from that game. The FFB in AC is *generally* pretty good from car-to-car, but not universally. Some cars just feel dramatically weaker or stronger than others. I realize this may differ from wheel to wheel, so perhaps a master strength slider for each car that could saved would be quite nice.
     
    Seanspeed, Apr 6, 2016
    #76
  17. stefanoCasillo

    stefanoCasillo Alien

    stefanoCasillo, Apr 6, 2016
    #77
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  18. kofotsjanne

    kofotsjanne Alien

    Use +/- on your numpad when youre on the track. I think thats what you mean?
     
    kofotsjanne, Apr 6, 2016
    #78
  19. Seanspeed

    Seanspeed Hardcore Simmer

    I've done that before. Never paid attention to whether that gets saved or not for next time you boot up the game, though.

    Either way, this should be a menu option, not something hidden away through hotkeys.
     
    Seanspeed, Apr 6, 2016
    #79
  20. kofotsjanne

    kofotsjanne Alien

    It should get saved :)
     
    kofotsjanne, Apr 6, 2016
    #80
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