458 italia vs 488 gtb

@LeDude83 This cars are made to be driven with TC, otherwise they lose their potential.

 

I think I'm getting close to the conclusion that Ferrari cars are just nothing interesting. They aren't something that I define as good looking and they aren't fun to drive either. Except the F40 of course, this one is awesome.
As for the 488 vs 458, I can do some laps in 458 (laps = hotlap/race), but 488 was so frustrating when I tried to do a lap in it around the 'Ring BTG that when I finally did it I just matched my 458 time. 488 is good to do some Chris Harris driving in it.

 

But it's no fun to drive with TC.

 

@Schnipp if we speak about fun than yes, but if we speak about best lap time than no =)

 

I tend to agree. I usually turn it off because I enjoy a challenge plus in cars with a good performance balance like the GTs or even the 458 I'm faster without. But the 488 has the balance shifted mucho towards engine output. It simply has too much torque for the available traction and good traction control will maximize acceleration better than my right foot...I crashed in at least 5 subsequent BTG laps last time I tried to improve on my time.

 

Ferraris not fun? What cars are fun in your opinion? The Mclarens?
The 488 IS fun (sorry for the quality, just took my phone):

 

Come on it's just my opinion, you sound like you are offended by the fact that I don't like Ferraris like majority of people. They are fun for you and that's great, I accept it and respect your opinion, just do the same and carry on.
Besides, I already said that F40 is awesome and 458 is OK. Oh and 312T is also nice.
About McLaren, we've been racing the MP4-12C @ Spa yesterday... wasn't super fun either.

 

No, not offended at all, just surprised. I personally find them way more entertaining to drive than all the other modern roadcars because of their agility.

 

I've found the 488 drives wonderfully. I dont have any understeer issues, quite the opposite. The front end feels very positive and I can drive the car through the corner neutrally with the throttle.

Should note I'm using factory assist options, which might make a difference.

Also, as I've said a few times elsewhere - I really want to see how they compare with the same tires in the game to see how much tires are playing a difference. In real life, they use the same tires so it's a bit frustrating that they're using different ones in AC.

 

Do you have a link to those tracks?

 

You'll find them over at RD.

 

I like the 488 more than the 458. It feels more accurate. Maybe because it's a recent release.

 

I just tested all the modern Ferrari roadcars, and so far what I've noticed is that the LaFerrari and the 488 GTB are very similar, they don't have that much actual understeer, but they have very quick steering racks and are also a bit rear-heavy, so keeping weight on the front wheels is crucial, the problem with these, or at least what I feel is different compared to the 458, is the adjustability through throttle, I can drive the 458 like a guided missile, always put it where I want to, and do controlled skids/drifts at 180km/h, when I compare this to the 488 and LaF, those seem very on/off as far as power transfer goes, I think it's a differential thing, I feel the same thing in the BMW M4 and Corvette Stingray, where I have to keep a higher gear in if I want to use the throttle to adjust the car mid-corner.

 

I'm starting to warm to it, yes i missed the fact they use different tyres so explains the grip, did some laps on Mugello and started to tame it a bit. But...i am not fast in it at all im taking things 15% more safe.

 

I enjoyed the GTB @Barcelona today. It was fun, just had to give it a lot more front camber, maybe 1.5/1.6

 

I think when you consider the fact that the 488 gtb got 100 hp and 220 nm more, combined with the very low turbolag and all that power and torque is available at just about the same rpm level in both cars, it's no wonder the 488 gtb feels slightly more uncontrollable since the weight of the cars is also almost identical.

I tend to find myself a gear higher in almost every corner in the 488 gtb because it has so much available torque from low rpm, but i'm no expert and this is just my two cents.

 

Understeer and oversteer in curves. It goes straight ahead quite good. I wont touch it again.

 

Yeah, you have to be really precise to make the most of the car (488 GTB), it's quite rewarding and annoying, however I don't think it's simulated properly, differential settings and chassis balance is way off after I tested a whole day with it.The 458 also has weird differential settings as well, these things immediately break grip and engage "drift mode", very annoying when trying to drive it hard and smooth.I thought it's quite okey when I first tried it, but when comparing it to other cars, it's definitely off.

 

I love the 488. It's the kind of understeering car you can learn to drive fast because of, not in spite of, the push. The understeer makes the car nice and stable on the limit but you have to short-shift as it has very little high-end shove, trail brake, get on the power early and watch out for oversteer on corner exit. Here is my PB in the 488 at Mugello, still good enough for 15/167 on RSR two months after logging this hotlap.

 

We're talking about the 488 GTB road car, not the GT3.