AC v1.13 update

That is ridiculous! Everybody knows they close the track when it's not 26c and sunny IRL. No real lap times ever have to consider weather as a factor. I can't believe anyone would even try it at 10 degrees.

 

By the way, I wanted to point out that Dominguez 787B physics must have been not bad, I wouldn't tell that car feels very much different, but it was quite some time since I played the 787B mod, I think it was more stable, IIRIC.

I'd hate to think that NSX physics are good, because I don't like them

Thats something on 1.13 topic, I think

 

Thing is I race in all types of conditions but dont bother to use rsr outside of the pro settings. Its only real use is comparing times in the same conditions as others. I have no interest in changing this to be faster or even do more then laugh at the desperates setting times at 0c purely because they know they cant compete without a big advantage.

Pretty sure in a real track you cant go oh chit need more engine power and get these super softs to work better. Lets turn the thermostat down at the track.

AC track limits are much softer, its not hard to do valid laps at nords but you cant be running on the grass everywhere with rsr.

 

Not as such, but if you're local you could quite plausbibly choose to go for your PBs on cool, dry days in November assuming the track is open. My WRX makes about 405whp on a dry, 25F night and about 383whp on a 90F, humid summer afternoon. I might not be able to turn down the thermostat in July but I can certainly do my datalogging in January if I want some logs to show off to my buddies as proof I have a 400WHP build. That's basically all they're doing. Kids...

None of this is here or there, obviously. People will do what they're gonna do. I guess my point is that IRL I don't believe record lap times are invalidated if the race is run outside a certain temperature window.

 

The curbs on certain parts of the track, for example after the apex of Schwalbenschwanz, are there for a reason. If they exist I use them. I don't need a stupid app forcing me to compromise my line.

 

The stupid app is purely a hotlap tool to compare times on the same track, and in some cases the same conditions. AC marks all kerbs as valid track and to go invalid you would need to have no wheels on the actual track and less then 2 on the kerb. So if trying to compare against other laps the idea is to actually use the same track and in most definitions of track limits this means you must keep at least 1 wheel inside the white line indicating track boundary. To get called by RSR you need to be well off the track there so yes if you consider that the proper line you would need to adjust yours to actually stay on the track. In most cases I find RSR at Nords to be softer then in game default penalty and really not an issue at all to stay valid at any part of the track.

 

If that's the case, there has to be something wrong with my system. I always have at least two wheels within the white lines. Otherwise I would not call the lap valid myself.

 

Maybe check a replay as at times you may not be fully aware until you see your car from outside the track, RSR has only 1 difference vs the official in game app is that it also marks parts of track adding dirt to tyres as invalid. But if you check the surfaces.ini of any track you will see what surfaces are marked valid and whats not, it also shows what is adding dirt. That corner you mentioned being not to familiar with the actual names at Nords I assume its the corner before the small karusel.

Below is the surfaces.ini for nordscheiffe so take note of what is valid track and dirt additive, I dont know if rsr is 2 or 3 tyres allowed out but ingame default penalty is 2 tyres out, the dirt additive invalid will take out surfaces like carpet that in game has valid but RSR will be invalid. Obviously if anyone were to edit this file they would be kicked from a server for missmatch and using RSR would be banned for cheating if the file doesnt match the current kunos version.

Code:

[SURFACE_0]
KEY=CRB
FRICTION=0.95
DAMPING=0
WAV=kerb.wav
WAV_PITCH=1.3
FF_EFFECT=1
DIRT_ADDITIVE=0
BLACK_FLAG_TIME=0
IS_VALID_TRACK=1
SIN_HEIGHT=0
SIN_LENGTH=0
IS_PITLANE=0
VIBRATION_GAIN=0
VIBRATION_LENGTH=0

[SURFACE_1]
KEY=CARPET
FRICTION=0.7
DAMPING=0
WAV=extraturf.wav
WAV_PITCH=0
FF_EFFECT=NULL
DIRT_ADDITIVE=0.1
BLACK_FLAG_TIME=0
IS_VALID_TRACK=1
SIN_HEIGHT=0
SIN_LENGTH=0
IS_PITLANE=0
VIBRATION_GAIN=0
VIBRATION_LENGTH=0

[SURFACE_2]
KEY=CURB
FRICTION=0.90
DAMPING=0
WAV=kerb.wav
WAV_PITCH=1.0
FF_EFFECT=1
DIRT_ADDITIVE=0
BLACK_FLAG_TIME=0
IS_VALID_TRACK=1
SIN_HEIGHT=0
SIN_LENGTH=0
IS_PITLANE=0
VIBRATION_GAIN=0.2
VIBRATION_LENGTH=0.4

[SURFACE_3]
KEY=TRM-NRM
FRICTION=0.98
DAMPING=0
WAV=
WAV_PITCH=0
FF_EFFECT=NULL
DIRT_ADDITIVE=0
BLACK_FLAG_TIME=0
IS_VALID_TRACK=1
SIN_HEIGHT=0
SIN_LENGTH=0
IS_PITLANE=0
VIBRATION_GAIN=0.0
VIBRATION_LENGTH=0

[SURFACE_4]
KEY=CNC-KLN
FRICTION=0.96
DAMPING=0.01
WAV=
WAV_PITCH=0
FF_EFFECT=NULL
DIRT_ADDITIVE=0
BLACK_FLAG_TIME=0
IS_VALID_TRACK=1
SIN_HEIGHT=0
SIN_LENGTH=0
IS_PITLANE=0
VIBRATION_GAIN=0.5
VIBRATION_LENGTH=3

[SURFACE_5]
KEY=CNC-KRS
FRICTION=0.96
DAMPING=0.01
WAV=
WAV_PITCH=0
FF_EFFECT=NULL
DIRT_ADDITIVE=0
BLACK_FLAG_TIME=0
IS_VALID_TRACK=1
SIN_HEIGHT=0
SIN_LENGTH=0
IS_PITLANE=0
VIBRATION_GAIN=0.4
VIBRATION_LENGTH=4.5

[SURFACE_6]
KEY=CONCRETE
FRICTION=0.85
DAMPING=0
WAV=
WAV_PITCH=0
FF_EFFECT=NULL
DIRT_ADDITIVE=0
BLACK_FLAG_TIME=0
IS_VALID_TRACK=1
SIN_HEIGHT=0
SIN_LENGTH=0
IS_PITLANE=0
VIBRATION_GAIN=0
VIBRATION_LENGTH=0

[SURFACE_7]
KEY=PITS
FRICTION=0.95
DAMPING=0
WAV=
WAV_PITCH=0
FF_EFFECT=NULL
DIRT_ADDITIVE=0.05
BLACK_FLAG_TIME=0
IS_VALID_TRACK=1
SIN_HEIGHT=0
SIN_LENGTH=0
IS_PITLANE=1
VIBRATION_GAIN=0
VIBRATION_LENGTH=0

[SURFACE_8]
KEY=CUTKRB
FRICTION=0.9
DAMPING=0
WAV=kerb.wav
WAV_PITCH=1.2
FF_EFFECT=1
DIRT_ADDITIVE=0.0
BLACK_FLAG_TIME=0
IS_VALID_TRACK=0
SIN_HEIGHT=0
SIN_LENGTH=0
IS_PITLANE=0
VIBRATION_GAIN=1.0
VIBRATION_LENGTH=1.0

[SURFACE_9]
KEY=PAINT
FRICTION=0.9
DAMPING=0
WAV=
WAV_PITCH=0
FF_EFFECT=NULL
DIRT_ADDITIVE=0.0
BLACK_FLAG_TIME=0
IS_VALID_TRACK=1
SIN_HEIGHT=0
SIN_LENGTH=0
IS_PITLANE=0
VIBRATION_GAIN=0
VIBRATION_LENGTH=0

[SURFACE_10]
KEY=OUT
FRICTION=0.9
DAMPING=0.01
WAV=
WAV_PITCH=0
FF_EFFECT=NULL
DIRT_ADDITIVE=0.0
BLACK_FLAG_TIME=0
IS_VALID_TRACK=0
SIN_HEIGHT=0
SIN_LENGTH=0
IS_PITLANE=0
VIBRATION_GAIN=0
VIBRATION_LENGTH=0

[SURFACE_11]
KEY=ASPH-NURB
FRICTION=0.98
DAMPING=0
WAV=
WAV_PITCH=0
FF_EFFECT=NULL
DIRT_ADDITIVE=0.0
BLACK_FLAG_TIME=0
IS_VALID_TRACK=1
SIN_HEIGHT=0
SIN_LENGTH=0
IS_PITLANE=0
VIBRATION_GAIN=0
VIBRATION_LENGTH=0

[SURFACE_12]
KEY=PTRMBL
FRICTION=0.85
DAMPING=0
WAV=kerb.wav
WAV_PITCH=1.3
FF_EFFECT=1
DIRT_ADDITIVE=0.0
BLACK_FLAG_TIME=0
IS_VALID_TRACK=1
SIN_HEIGHT=0
SIN_LENGTH=0
IS_PITLANE=1
VIBRATION_GAIN=0.25
VIBRATION_LENGTH=0.1

[SURFACE_13]
KEY=3DIMP
FRICTION=0.85
DAMPING=0
WAV=kerb.wav
WAV_PITCH=1.3
FF_EFFECT=1
DIRT_ADDITIVE=0.0
BLACK_FLAG_TIME=0
IS_VALID_TRACK=1
SIN_HEIGHT=0
SIN_LENGTH=0
IS_PITLANE=0
VIBRATION_GAIN=0.25
VIBRATION_LENGTH=0.1

[SURFACE_14]
KEY=CUTGRA
FRICTION=0.6
DAMPING=0
WAV=grass.wav
WAV_PITCH=0
FF_EFFECT=NULL
DIRT_ADDITIVE=1
IS_VALID_TRACK=0
BLACK_FLAG_TIME=10
SIN_HEIGHT=0.03
SIN_LENGTH=0.5
IS_PITLANE=0
VIBRATION_GAIN=0.2
VIBRATION_LENGTH=0.6

[SURFACE_15]
KEY=3dMISC
FRICTION=0.6
DAMPING=0
WAV=grass.wav
WAV_PITCH=0
FF_EFFECT=NULL
DIRT_ADDITIVE=1
IS_VALID_TRACK=0
BLACK_FLAG_TIME=0
SIN_HEIGHT=0.03
SIN_LENGTH=0.5
IS_PITLANE=0
VIBRATION_GAIN=0.2
VIBRATION_LENGTH=0.6

 

Dumb ***!

 

Yeah, people that try to set the fastest possible (without cheating) time on a leader board are such losers.........

 

C'mon guys, theres nothing wrong with taking advantage of everything that is at your disposal.
Thats what they do in F1 too
If someone uses a cold track to get a good time on RSR or drives many a laps, its not less of an achievement.
Given that RSR is free, its a great service, and kudos to them for trying to avoid cheating with cutting corners as much as possible.
I've never used it to post lap times myself, but it i look it up very often to get a reference, a most useful resource.

As this is a also about the v1.13 update, which caught me by surprise, I have to say, that Miata NA is one of the most joyful cars in the game.
Love how it leans into the corners, and how the engine literally hurts my ears when redlining it.
After the v1.13.1 update, the aero drag seems to be in order. At least I would suppose the aero drag to be enormous at speed, with the roof down.
Almost certain the real Miata did not reach 197kph with the roof down, but the manufacturers spec always refer to the roof being closed, so there is nothing wrong with it the way it is presented in AC.

Not referring to this car, but I remember of reading in car reviews of other open top cars, that testers would often not max out the cars and not try to proof the manufacturers numbers even with the roof closed, because the cloth roof would lift from the linkage at high speeds due to the suction of the air passing over it, and making driving very unpleasureable.

 

Well, the lap times that we talk about here is made online and theres is (as someone else already said) a popular server that run those kinds of temps. I only looked at top3 and they havent made a system where they get good times by lowering the temps, it have been made on a online server where they couldnt decide what temp to use. Their other times on RSR are made with perfectly normal temperatures.

If you only want to get a high place on the board, find and abuse whatever you want. If you want to actually compare how fast you are to others using RSR, there is a pro rank with a ruleset of what to use. Two different ways to hotlap.

 

Isn't there a thread about RSR where you could discuss that sort of nonsense?

 

I think the general idea of the RSR was same track, same car, same conditions, different driver. I have nothing against a leaderboard that's "rule-free" and laptimes are done in unrealistic conditions but I don't really understand why the pro-rank is not shown as default, because that's the only way to compare drivers instead of conditions..

 

Out of interest and back to the topic:
It is planned to make the pitcrew also visible during the pit stop with STAY_IN_CAR=1?
Its not a game breaker for me but a nice to have immersion wise especially if you've use Pitconfig before.
I still like the new app by Kunos more. Just miss this feature

 

Quite late to the party for such a basic comment, but I must say that I totally agree!
The Miata is a real pleasure to drive and makes me regret that I did not buy one back then... (assuming that AC recreation matches the real deal)

 

@ S.Cargo I better not mention that I've not even driven the RSR for more then a couple of laps yet

 

Aside from torque which seems somehow too low and the diff which I'm not keen on, its pretty close. The way the car moves on the suspension seems accurate enough at least. Although not enough lift off oversteer imo.

 

It's true, that's why there hasn't been a legal race in Ireland for more than 4 years.

 

Nordschleife only races on hot summer days.



Especially at 12:00 and that was at the end of May.