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myimac Alien

http://pretendracecars.net/2015/11/24/assetto-corsa-dream-pack-3-details/ James disagrees...

myimac, Nov 25, 2015

#441
myimac Alien

Guidofoc said: ↑

Ok.. This is not a FULL transcript, I just typed quickly while I was listening so.. I had to sum up stuff so this is not what they literally said. For some topics (telemetry, MP server) I don't fully understand the underlying issues so I may have missed the point. And English grammar is not included.

Stefano's interview:

Your Studies? How can we become like you?
He didn'd go to Univ, he was not an exemplary student in high school either. He just couldn't get to sit down in a class, discipline is not his cup of tea. Lots of self study.
Hobbies?
He used to play tennis when he was younger, then guitar.
Philippines?
For safety reasons they decided to come back to Europe. At the moment he is parked in Italy for some months, we'll see.
Working at Kunos?
It's never hard to work for Kunos, it's part of his passion. And he was lucky to meet people like Aris, Marco and Simone, people who are not "normal", and took the risk of this new project.
Why Vallelunga?
Marco used to come here to ride his motorbike, they had done some business here in the past, they had a chance to open an office here and it was just ideal for them. Every day they are in touch with people, cars, data, etc.
Did you expect the success of AC?
No. Well, they had a sort of negative experience with NetKar and so-so with Ferrari Virtual Academy, in terms of popularity and sales. AC is totally another story. If he walks in the paddock with his AC sweater, random people stop him to ask about AC. With NetKar nobody knocked at their office door there in Vallelunga.. now they do.
Multiplayer? What can we expect?
One of the things Stefano can do from Vallelunga is that finally he can use AC online with decent pings, unlike in the Philippines. He can spend more time online now so that helps.
Console Version? Will this bring a standby to the PC version or will the updates have the same rhythm on PC?
No standby. Maybe the updates will include a little less content because of the necessity to produce updates for both versions. At the moment they are about one month late on their plans.
Will console version help the PC version in some way?
The console version has just two hw platforms to work on (PS4 and Xbox One) while the PC version runs on whatever kind of PC configuration. This variability of CPUs and platforms creates a lot of headaches to make a feature work correctly on all platforms. So each development done on the consoles may or not be also portable to the PC version.
Multiplayer, contacts with other cars feel different from single player. Why?
The code is the same, but MP has to face latency (pings) so whenever there is a contact between two cars there is always a lag so the reaction is not immediate.
Is there a way to improve this?
There are some techniques to "simulate" the reaction to a physical impact, which were already used in NetKar, we may use this solution in the future.
Pit stop setup, will we be able to have a proprietary app for that?
Not for now. One thing we will have about pit stop is single player pit stop. Our original idea was actually to let you scramble with the mouse to create a more "exciting" pit stop. For the console release we'll see.
Apps: any app for complete telemetry analysis?
In real life on many cars you don't have the chance of having complete telemetry even in real life. There are apps in the game for real time analysis, mostly done for the modders, not for the players. I have a complete telemetry with big log files for my development, but it's biiig files.
What's the .tc files?
They are the files for the in-game telemetry.
MP: a few dedicated "spectator" slots. They would give the chance to avoid occupying car slots for the streaming. When can we have it?
It used to be in the original plan.. We had to cut it because of priority reasons. There is a variable in the .ini but the function is not developed and we need to understand how much it takes to make it and when we can do it.
Replays: can we have other players' complete information in the replays so we can study them?
For MP, that would overload the server with info. [I guess the question was more about SP replays like hotlaps? But I just caught this answer for MP]
Sector times in MP?
They didn't make it to the game so far. Not huge thing to do, might be in one future update.
Third party apps: will some of them be integrated into AC?
No, the app idea was born with this logic, that an external approach may make plausible things that if developed by us would expose us to criticism (e.g. Helicorsa, they would say AC is arcade!). The server plugin development is also following the same logic.
Rules like false start etc. What's new on this front?
I understand the need but it's not a priority.
Mouse: at the moment whatever you do you always need the mouse to navigate the menus. Will this change?
Well the whole interface and app system is designed around a mouse which gives you maximum freedom, allowing you to move apps around, click small buttons etc. So that's a good thing. On the console you cannot have this freedom. Adding the console interface into the PC would be a big headache for us in terms of support and development. We have a situation called "Assetto Corsa Pro" (AC customized versions for fairs events etc.) which goes in the direction of no mouse, so we are considering that, too. Also, for Oculus Rift you need to do something. We'll have to find a way to make AC more easy to use without a mouse.
How did you get to know about us (AC Italian community)?
Through you!
So, no rain and no night, right?
No rain, no night...

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Marco's interview

Console, we read of announced release dates. Is that true?
The only confirmed thing is first part of 2016 if all goes well. There will also be some time needed to pass the Sony/Microsoft admission process. We don't have a date now.
So, next PC updates?
This week if all goes well Audi R8 Plus as free bonus.
Around mid-December Dream Pack 3, including Brands Hatch and 7 cars: Lotus 25, Lotus 72B, McLaren 650 GT3, Merc GT3, 500, Ford Escort Mk1 [he only says 6 of them]
Before Christmas there will be another bonus content.
At the end of the year we will announce a new license, wait for Dec 31.
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nice transcript

myimac, Nov 25, 2015

#442
Bill Wiskins Hardcore Simmer

Cheers @Guidofoc, that'll teach me to believe what I read on some internet page.

...wait a minute...

Bill Wiskins, Nov 25, 2015

#443

Guidofoc likes this.
Bill Wiskins Hardcore Simmer

myimac said: ↑

http://pretendracecars.net/2015/11/24/assetto-corsa-dream-pack-3-details/ James disagrees...
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That awful site said:

I myself have lost interest in the title...
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I think the chances of that PRC 'article' being anything other than a padded copy/paste from the same Reddit post I mentioned before are incredibly slim. I guess the Reddit guy mistranslated, and PRC applied their usual thorough research and fact-checking procedures. Never mind, was a fun thing to be mildly excited about for a bit

Bill Wiskins, Nov 25, 2015

#444
myimac Alien

Bill Wiskins said: ↑

I think the chances of that PRC 'article' being anything other than a padded copy/paste from the same Reddit post I mentioned before are incredibly slim. I guess the Reddit guy mistranslated, and PRC applied their usual thorough research and fact-checking procedures. Never mind, was a fun thing to be mildly excited about for a bit
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But how would that other Italian guy on Reddit get it so wrong?

myimac, Nov 25, 2015

#445
zaratul Hardcore Simmer

I am content with the existing content and I don't need more content

zaratul, Nov 25, 2015

#446
Ben Lee Alien

I find it hard to believe we will get two free content packs and a paid DLC by Christmas, but we will see I guess. Seems like a lot of content in a short space of time...

Ben Lee, Nov 25, 2015

#447

Leemstradamus likes this.
Brownninja97 Alien

Ben Lee said: ↑

I find it hard to believe we will get two free content packs and a paid DLC by Christmas, but we will see I guess. Seems like a lot of content in a short space of time...
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in all honestly whatever the free content is it could likely come out with the R8 but someone thought it would look better if we split it up. I know Monza classic with the oval is that next free content just not sure if its alone, wonder if the lotus sr will finally come. Maybe that thread I made a while back about them forgetting about cars will finally bring them in.

Brownninja97, Nov 25, 2015

#448
bigbawmcgraw Alien

LilSki said: ↑

Europe got the cool escort. We got this travesty:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Escort_(North_America)
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Oh my... that was a travesty indeed.

I've been looking forward to the Escort for a looong time. So glad they decided to include it in their next line up. That around Brands Hatch Indy will be a huge amount of fun.
Please please please make it the Mexico

bigbawmcgraw, Nov 25, 2015

#449

Jack Bancroft and LeDude83 like this.
Minolin Staff Member KS Dev Team

Guidofoc said: ↑

Ok.. This is not a FULL transcript, I just typed quickly while I was listening so.. I had to sum up stuff so this is not what they literally said. For some topics (telemetry, MP server) I don't fully understand the underlying issues so I may have missed the point. And English grammar is not included. (@Lord Kunos correct me if I missed the point..)

Stefano's interview:

Your Studies? How can we become like you?
He didn'd go to Univ, he was not an exemplary student in high school either. He just couldn't get to sit down in a class, discipline is not his cup of tea. Lots of self study.
Hobbies?
He used to play tennis when he was younger, then guitar.
Philippines?
For safety reasons they decided to come back to Europe. At the moment he is parked in Italy for some months, we'll see.
Working at Kunos?
It's never hard to work for Kunos, it's part of his passion. And he was lucky to meet people like Aris, Marco and Simone, people who are not "normal", and took the risk of this new project.
Why Vallelunga?
Marco used to come here to ride his motorbike, they had done some business here in the past, they had a chance to open an office here and it was just ideal for them. Every day they are in touch with people, cars, data, etc.
Did you expect the success of AC?
No. Well, they had a sort of negative experience with NetKar and so-so with Ferrari Virtual Academy, in terms of popularity and sales. AC is totally another story. If he walks in the paddock with his AC sweater, random people stop him to ask about AC. With NetKar nobody knocked at their office door there in Vallelunga.. now they do.
Multiplayer? What can we expect?
One of the things Stefano can do from Vallelunga is that finally he can use AC online with decent pings, unlike in the Philippines. He can spend more time online now so that helps.
Console Version? Will this bring a standby to the PC version or will the updates have the same rhythm on PC?
No standby. Maybe the updates will include a little less content because of the necessity to produce updates for both versions. At the moment they are about one month late on their plans.
Will console version help the PC version in some way?
The console version has just two hw platforms to work on (PS4 and Xbox One) while the PC version runs on whatever kind of PC configuration. This variability of CPUs and platforms creates a lot of headaches to make a feature work correctly on all platforms. So each development done on the consoles may or not be also portable to the PC version.
Multiplayer, contacts with other cars feel different from single player. Why?
The code is the same, but MP has to face latency (pings) so whenever there is a contact between two cars there is always a lag so the reaction is not immediate.
Is there a way to improve this?
There are some techniques to "simulate" the reaction to a physical impact, which were already used in NetKar, they may use this solution in the future.
Pit stop setup, will we be able to have a proprietary app for that?
Not for now. One thing they will have about pit stop is single player pit stop. The original idea was actually to let you scramble with the mouse to create a more "exciting" pit stop. For the console release they'll see.
Apps: any app for complete telemetry analysis?
In real life on many cars you don't have the chance of having complete telemetry even in real life. There are apps in the game for real time analysis, mostly done for the modders, not for the players. He has a complete telemetry with big log files for game development, but it's biiig files.
What's the .tc files?
They are the files for the in-game telemetry.
MP: a few dedicated "spectator" slots. They would give the chance to avoid occupying car slots for the streaming. When can we have it?
It used to be in the original plan.. They had to cut it because of priority reasons. There is a variable in the .ini but the function is not developed and they need to understand how much it takes to make it and when they can do it.
Replays: can we have other players' complete information in the replays so we can study them?
For MP, that would overload the server with info. [I guess the question was more about SP replays like hotlaps? But I just caught this answer for MP]
Sector times in MP?
They didn't make it to the game so far. Not huge thing to do, might be in one future update.
Third party apps: will some of them be integrated into AC?
No, the app idea was born with this logic, that an external approach may make plausible things that if developed by Kunos would expose them to criticism (e.g. Helicorsa, a radar! They would say AC is arcade!). The server plugin development is also following the same logic.
Rules like false start etc. What's new on this front?
I understand the need but it's not a priority.
Mouse: at the moment whatever you do you always need the mouse to navigate the menus. Will this change?
Well the whole interface and app system is designed around a mouse which gives you maximum freedom, allowing you to move apps around, click small buttons etc. So that's a good thing. On the console you cannot have this freedom. Adding the console interface into the PC would be a big headache for them in terms of support and development. They have a situation called "Assetto Corsa Pro" (AC customized versions for fairs events etc.) which goes in the direction of no mouse, so they are considering that, too. Also, for Oculus Rift you need to do something. They'll have to find a way to make AC more easy to use without a mouse.
How did you get to know about us (AC Italian community)?
Through you!
So, no rain and no night, right?
No rain, no night...

------------------------
Marco's interview

Console, we read of announced release dates. Is that true?
The only confirmed time range is first half of 2016 if all goes well. There will also be some time needed to pass the Sony/Microsoft admission process. They don't have a date now.
So, next PC updates?
This week if all goes well Audi R8 Plus as free bonus.
Around mid-December Dream Pack 3, including Brands Hatch and 7 cars: Lotus 25, Lotus 72 D, McLaren 650S GT3, Mercedes AMG GT3, Abarth 500 Assetto Corse, Ford Escort Mk1 [he only says 6 of them]
Before Christmas there will be another bonus content.
At the end of the year they will announce a new license, wait for Dec 31.
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ty very much This lead to an interesting experience: As I'm very interested what he tells about the 3rd party app section, I actually found the part of that video and tried to figure out what he precisely said. Lol. Italian is a very cool language. And I understood "app", "radar", "arcade!", "plugin".
Somehow I'm (little) insulted when he's speaking about "radar app". It has a name

Minolin, Nov 25, 2015

#450

D1visor, Leemstradamus and Glaurung like this.
Andy-R Alien

was there a mk1 escort that raced against the alfa gta touring car? its waaay before my time so im not sure. I know the rs1600 raced in the 70's but not sure about 60's. if there was I really REALLY hope we get that rather than a road going version with no competition to race it against.

Andy-R, Nov 25, 2015

#451

LeDude83 likes this.
LeDude83 Alien

andy-riches said: ↑

was there a mk1 escort that raced against the alfa gta touring car? its waaay before my time so im not sure. I know the rs1600 raced in the 70's but not sure about 60's. if there was I really REALLY hope we get that rather than a road going version with no competition to race it against.
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I was about to ask: do we have any competitors for that Escort? Alfa GTA is on my mind, too.

LeDude83, Nov 25, 2015

#452
Andy-R Alien

LeDude83 said: ↑

I was about to ask: do we have any competitors for that Escort? Alfa GTA is on my mind, too.
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beat you to it I hope the gta gets new tyres at some point soon. im getting withdrawal symptoms

Andy-R, Nov 25, 2015

#453

LeiF and LeDude83 like this.
Gr3nox Racer

650S Gt3 !!! Only for that i'm happy, Thanks Kunos !

Gr3nox, Nov 25, 2015

#454

Nordlicht1988 and LeDude83 like this.
garyjpaterson Alien

Out of curiosity, anyone know what the differences are between the 12C Gt3 and 650s GT3?

garyjpaterson, Nov 25, 2015

#455
Jadonyx Hardcore Simmer

garyjpaterson said: ↑

Out of curiosity, anyone know what the differences are between the 12C Gt3 and 650s GT3?
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As far as I know - brakes. MP4-12 uses exclusive Akebono and 650S uses more common AP Racing like C7 and M3. And SCG003.

Jadonyx, Nov 25, 2015

#456

Nordlicht1988 and garyjpaterson like this.
Brownninja97 Alien

garyjpaterson said: ↑

Out of curiosity, anyone know what the differences are between the 12C Gt3 and 650s GT3?
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longer wheel base, larger intakes for front brake cooling and the rear bumper is a lot taller, i cant remember what that bumper difference does though. Spoiler is taller and the vents on the bonnet are larger, diffuser is a lot larger but it could just be the bumper change acting as a placebo

Brownninja97, Nov 25, 2015

#457

garyjpaterson likes this.
Christopher Low Alien

I hope the gta gets new tyres at some point soon. im getting withdrawal symptoms
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It would be nice to see that plus v5 tyre model updates for the other seven cars in the 1.4 release, but I guess we will just have to wait and see. I am looking forward to having a few extra cars to test drive offline, because online racing really isn't doing it for me at the moment. I tried a couple of races last night in the Ferrari 599XX EVO, but I just wasn't getting any kind of enjoyment out of it like I used to do. It's possible that the track was partly to blame though. It's a very strange version of Hockenheim, with very few obvious brake markers, and difficult to see corner apexes.

Christopher Low, Nov 25, 2015

#458

Rift Racer likes this.
Andy-R Alien

garyjpaterson said: ↑

Out of curiosity, anyone know what the differences are between the 12C Gt3 and 650s GT3?
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these are the differences im aware of:
the name
1 is newer so is much more desirable
638

Andy-R, Nov 25, 2015

#459

garyjpaterson likes this.
baliwa Hardcore Simmer

Brownninja97 said: ↑

longer wheel base, larger intakes for front brake cooling and the rear bumper is a lot taller, i cant remember what that bumper difference does though. Spoiler is taller and the vents on the bonnet are larger, diffuser is a lot larger but it could just be the bumper change acting as a placebo
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what about the machine? they're same?

baliwa, Nov 25, 2015

#460

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